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Does anybody here have special musical instrument insurance?

I'm thinking of taking some out as I'm gigging pretty regularly at the moment.

Anybody know of any reputable UK brokers?

Anybody ever made a claim.

What's people's experience with musical instrument insurance generally?
 
Codmate said:
Does anybody here have special musical instrument insurance?

I'm thinking of taking some out as I'm gigging pretty regularly at the moment.

Anybody know of any reputable UK brokers?

Anybody ever made a claim.

What's people's experience with musical instrument insurance generally?


Don't know of any UK brokers but the premium for my coverage in the US works out to $100 USD per $10,000USD of items insured.

Luckily I haven't had to file a claim as yet.
 
I can't recommend a UK broker, but most brokers can access the same basic insurance markets (unless it's a direct writer - meaning a sales rep for a specific insurance carrier rather than a broker who can access many carriers). A basic search of a phone book or the internet should get you plenty of names.

Talk to people you know, ask them if they trust thier broker, if they trust them, perhaps you could trust them also.

If you are gigging you will likely need professional coverage, since the basic rider on a home/renters policy would likely exclude professional use (ie: making money).

I pay $180 US for $40,000 of coverage (on an inland marine rider). I don't always haul $40k of gear, but I list all my expensive stuff so whatever I take, it's covered. I've never filed a claim and I've had the coverage a long time, so I've gotten the premiums down over time.

I make sure I have all my purchase receipts and have a local music store give me a periodic "appraisal" on thier Company letterhead and I have photos of every piece of gear with the name, make & model writen on the bac (the more documentation the better if you file a claim.

Much like auto insurance, if you file a claim, you likely need a police report (for a theft) or pictures (for damages). If you file a claim, it is likely the premiums will increase. Insurance should be for a large loss (all my gear was stolen) vs. a small claim (my guitar fell over and I need to replace the tuning lug).

When buying insurance, you need to decide if you want full replacement value, a depeciated value, or a collector's value. As an example, a 57' Strat is worth several thousand$$$, a 57' reissue (made in say 2002) is worth maybe $1200 and a new Mexi Strat is worth $200.

If a 57' Strat were stolen, it could cost $10,000 to replace (replacement value) as a collector's item, however the insurance carrier may say, new it was $100 and it's depreciated by almost 50 years, so it's only worth $10. Or perhaps they could say, we can replace that with a new Strat for $200.

It all depends on how the policy coverage is structured - so make sure you know what you are buying - and don't take a 57" Strat to gigs. :D
 
mikeh- Wow! Mine is more than double the price. However, mine will cover any concievable damage or theft(as long as items aren't stolen from a car :confused: ). Also, I am allowed to name my own replacement price. I go with list price for newer items and the going book rate for the collectables. I update the value of everything once a year.
 
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It sounds like we have the same basic coverage (mine also excludes theft from a car - but in theory my auto coverage then kicks in).

I update my "scheduled insured items" - meaning a new list, every year or whenever I add/delete something (I should say add - since I rearely delete :D ).

My coverage is basically blanket coverage, meaning all items are covered, up to a max of $40,000. In theory, if I underestimate the value of say a 57" Strat (which I don't have and would not take to a gig) and the replacement would cost $40,000 - the insurance covers it.) I establish the values, based on what I hope are realistic, acurate numbers.

Since I've never filed a claim I don't know what type of battle the claims adjuster would put up over prices, but I trust my broker to help me fight that fight if the time comes.

Part of the reason my premium is so low is I've had the coverage for about 25 years with no claims and in part because the same carrier writes my home, auto and umbralla coverage.
 
I have a '61 Strat, and I take it to gigs, where it's never out of my sight. I got it to play; if I can't play it, what's the use of having it?
 
mikeh said:
Part of the reason my premium is so low is I've had the coverage for about 25 years with no claims and in part because the same carrier writes my home, auto and umbralla coverage.

Yeah. That probably helps. I only started mine two years ago.
 
mikeh said:
...and don't take a 57" Strat to gigs. :D



You had me until that one. It's a fucking tool. USE IT.


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"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
Then again, at a road/track race I saw a guy destroy an authentic Shelby Cobra worth around half a million dollars. Some things are best left looked at and gingerly played with. ;) You buy the replicas and reissues to take and beat up on the track.

H2H
 
My comment "don't take a 57' Strat to gigs" was in part a joke (did you SEE the smile????)

I completely agree that an instrument is a tool and meant to be played. If people want to take expensive pieces of gear to gigs to use them as they were meant to be used - great!

That being said, some instruments can become rare enough or valuable enough that a more fiscally conservative approach could be to save those instruments for recording or personal use - rather than risk theft or damage in a sleazy bar.

I personally take my good gear to certain gigs where I am almost positive they will be safe (corporate gigs, with large elavated stages, etc). If I'm playing a crap bar where the band sets up on the floor right next to the mens room (where every drunk in the bar could potentially stagger into my gear), then I may take my not so best gear - personal decision.
 
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