I only want the best........

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So I was wondering if all of these cheap mics can really compete with mics that cost $600-$800. I want a mic that is fuckin' great. Someone help me in choosing the best mic in my budget. The most I'll spend is $550. If there isn't a mic in this price range that is fuckin' great, I guess I'll have to spend more. Someone knowledgable in mics, please help me
 
"a great mic" for what?

what do you want to use it for mainly? A 57 is a great mic for some things and it's only $80. Can you be more specific?
RF
 
I don't really know if there really is anything in that price range that I would consider to be "fuckin' great."

I've heard a lot of really "fuckin' good" stuff in that range, though. Namely the Rode NTK, AT 4047, Shure KSM32, and the Blue Baby Bottle, to name a few candidates.

The Shure SM7 I consider to be pretty close to being f'ing great, but you pretty much have to team that up with a very expensive preamp in order to get there.

I started a new thread on the subject, but here is a shootout I did on some mics in your price range recently. For whatever it's worth :D :

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=64683
 
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Here's a few more in your price range that stand out above the crowd:

ElectroVoice RE20 (or PL20) - LD Dynamic

Beyerdynamic M130, M260 or M160 - Ribbons

Earthworks TC30 -SD Omni Condenser
SR77 - SD Cardioid Condenser

I've purposely left any LD condensers off the list, as the proliferation of sub-$600 offerings has led to opinions and arguments of religious proportion.

Scott
 
I have to reiterate what rush said.
What are you going to use it for?
Vocals?
guitar?
piano?
mandolin?
flute?
violin?
trumpet?
digeridoo?

A great mic is one that is well matched to the application.
If you could narrow that down for us, I'm sure several will chime in with their recommendations.
 
As Mr. Sennheiser already mentioned, AND, for the following applications, the MD-441 is excellent:
From above,
Vocals?
guitar?
piano?
mandolin?
flute?
violin?
trumpet?
digeridoo

I'm not sure yet if the 441 is a bad mic for ANY source, unless its a very quiet one, since its nota very high output mic. Couple it with a MP1NV and you'll be a happy camper.
I have one I'll sell ya for $500, it a limited run Blackfire 541 ;)

Hey Sennheiser, check your email again...
 
You didn't say if you were interested in a dynamic or a condensor, so I recommended what I use. It IS a "fucking great" mic. Possibly the best dynamic mic available on this, or any other planet.

You want the best dynamic available, AND in your price range? This is it. It doesn't get any better than that.

If you want the best condensor, save your money awhile longer 'cause $550 won't even come close to buying the best.

Many here have already recommended decent condensors (according to what I read here) within your budget. Not the best I guess(?), but good.

Just remember the first paragraph of this post.

OK, rant mode off.:D
 
anti alias said:
So I was wondering if all of these cheap mics can really compete with mics that cost $600-$800. I

DUDE!!!!
I mic that costs 600 - 800 * IS * a cheap mic by definition!

All this " scaling down" " slave labor" and cost cutting is nice, but lets not be ridiculous!
I mean you got the equivalent of a Geo Metro in a range that is affordable, but people keep pushing till we're left with soapbox racers
 
I think we're kinding ourselves if we think we have to spend $2,000 to get a great mic anymore. Ten years ago, that was true, but not anymore. This is a realization that I have only recently come to. I used to think, until I can afford a U-87, I'm not buying another mic.

However, recently on the VSPlanet a guy who goes by "Jazzoo" did an extensive mic shootout including a Neumann M-149, an AKG C-12, some type of ribbon mic, an AT 4047, an Octava MC-012, a Studio Projects C1, and just for the fun of it, a Shure SM-58. I know there were other mics that I'm forgetting. He recorded two male vocals, a female vocal, and an acoustic guitar using each mic. He then distributed CDs to about twenty people to "review" the mics on each track.

The results were quite surprising. The AT and the SP C1 received the vast majority of the first place votes in every category. Nobody picked the high priced M-149 or C-12. The people that reviewed the mics are people whose opinions I have grown to respect over the last few years.

Instead of holding out for the U-87, my next mic will be the C1.
 
You only want the best but "The most I'll spend is $550"?

Good luck!

I guess the term "the best" here is relative.
 
I say one of the magic vocal mic's that WILL make magic when part of a magic signal chain will stil cost around 25k all said and done

remember there was a mic pre shootout not too long ago, where mackie even placed well...

things can sound fine all by themselves...crappy converters are fine for 1 or 2 tracks...put that c1 in a real, full mix, and then try a REAL c-12 ( not a VR) and try a REAL M-49 ( not a 149) and then tell me you cant hear the difference ?
 
Shootouts don't tell a thing about real world sound. Although I'm sure there are alot of good mics out there for under $800 I thought we were talking about the best. Magic as pipe puts it is expensive.
 
No offense, but I think anyone who listens to all those mics stacked up against one another and comes to these conclusions has got to be getting desperate to the point of resorting to scraped resin at the bottom of their crack pipe.

I can believe the comments about the Oktava mc012 (and then some) but the rest of it kinda' reeks of wishful thinking.
 
I'll agree with Pipeline and Chessrock on this issue. These mic shootout (or any other gear shootout) CD's have limited value. There was one recently that supposedly showed the Mackie preamp to be equal or superior to the $2000+ pres.

But as Chess and Pipe point out, if you are careful about how and what you record, you can easily blur the differences between cheap and expensive gear. In a real world situation where the gear is being pushed to it's limits, that is where the differences become much more noticeable.

The best judge of a particular piece of gear in the recording chain is often the artist/performer. They are intimately familiar with the subtleties and nuances of their sound, and it's much harder to "fool" them than your typical listener.

I'll give an example: when I first bought my AT 4060, I put on some headphones and spoke into both the 4060 and a Lawson L47mp. On just my speaking voice it was really hard to tell a whole lot of difference. So, in theory, I could have concluded they were roughly equivalent.

But then I brought a "real" pro male vocalist and had him record some tracks using both mics. Then I played back the various alternate tracks without telling him which mic he was listening to, and asked for his preference. Interestingly enough, he picked the L47 track each time (usually with a strong preference). Although to my ears the difference was not always obvious, or at least, obvious which was "better", to someone who was an expert in hearing his own sound the choice was clear-cut.

That's why the shoot-out CD's are flawed - because we are listening to voices (or whatever) ONLY on the CD - we've never had the chance to hear them "live", and our only familiarity with them is through what we are hearing on the CD. So judging what they "should" sound like is problematic. As we all know, sometimes the "flaws" of a particular piece of gear just happen to match up well with the "flaws" of the sound source to create a serendipitous combination. I'm sure somewhere out there is a vocalist who sounds killer singing into a D112. But that doesn't make the D112 a "great" vocal mic for everyone else.

That's why i maintain the only true way to judge a mic or preamp or anything else is to use it on a source you are intimately familiar with, preferably in your own recording environment. That's how I've chosen compressors, reverbs, or just about anything. Personally, I think demo CD's can sometimes be a useful tool for choosing a synth or keyboard, but that's about it.
 
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