gat mic techniques

[Jack Simpson]

4-Track recording

Hey, I just got a 4-Track recorder and I am trying to record some songs. I am just recording guitar and drums at this point. I play through a Mesa and use a Kustom mic about 2 feet away in the center of the cabinet. I turned it up pretty loud and the result was a distorted recording, the level meter didn't peak above +3. Also I mixdown through my stereo system and the end result leaves me with a lot of noise. I don't have a mixer, should I get one?

 

[TXJethro]

There's another trick you can use to fatten your guitar sound, but first you have to like the sound your recording.

When first trying this don't run any effects other than distortion or compression (i.e. no delay, chorus, reverb etc.- Keep it dry)

1. Record a rhythm track - PAN FULL Left Channel.
(Don't get ahead of me here, and don't try to take any shortcuts because the results are not nearly as good - you'll see why later)

2. Play /Record the same rhythm to a different track - PAN FULL Right Channel

3. Synch and Mix both tracks.

It should fatten the sound without any processing. If you try to shortcut it and just copy the first rhythm to another track and pan it full to the other channel it sounds thinner. The fattness comes from the slight nuances that occur because you cannot play EXACTLY the same every time.

This is not my original idea at all!! I've read where many people do this including the pro's. I'll add a link if I can find some good sound clip examples and let you decide.

 

[LongWaveStudio]

Cakey,

get the zoom out of the rig.

 

[Wil Davis]

How about one of these?

- Wil

 

[Beatnik]

Guitar Doubling

Yeah i recently read that in a magazine and have played with it a little. works great for electric or acoustic. almost all the tracks on the original Days of The New CD were done that way. I did a test last night with a simple progression i made up.....power chords in the right channel, first position in the left channel, and fingerpicked dead center with a little delay...huge sweet sound

 

[gbdweller]

variation

Play the part twice panned to either side, but change the sound. For example, 5150 on the left JCM900 on the right set to a similar tone. The difference in tones combined with the doubled part makes for a HUGE sound. You could achieve the same basic result using a modeler such as a POD etc with 2 similar patches. Play with the panning of both tracks in the mix prior to mixdown to find the "sweet" spot.

 

[MadAudio]

Ahem, this thread is 6 years old! If he hasn't figured it out by now, then he just needs to give it up.

 

[easychair]

Dude, this thread was started six years ago. He hopefully has a full-sounding gat by now.

 

[earworm]

hahaha,

in dutch GAT means ass

so how you mic an ass? eheheh

 

[easychair]

hahaha,

in dutch GAT means ass

so how you mic an ass? eheheh

With the smallest diaphragm you can find.

 

[earworm]

and the biggest POP filter available

 

[MadAudio]

... and plenty of air freshener.

 

[earworm]

butt beware! the most silent farts are the most stinky ones !!
so for real high GAT quality you'll need a preamp with plenty of gain

 

[scrubs]

I got your gat mic right here.

 

[gbdweller]

Obviously the reply was not meant for the guy looking to mic his gat 6 years ago but it hopefully helps anyone reading the thread like you guys with the flatulence problems.

 

[easychair]

Obviously the reply was not meant for the guy looking to mic his gat 6 years ago but it hopefully helps anyone reading the thread like you guys with the flatulence problems.

Hey, believe me, if you saw some of the people that post here, you wouldn't say "Obviously".

 

[Atom Bomb]

Guitar Doubling

I was introduced to guitar doubling by the guy that recorded my band a few months ago.

What a difference. All we did different for each of my tracks was switch guitars and on the second track increase the mid and decrease the gain and then for our lead guitarists parts we did the exact same thing but took this little marshall solid state and ran it thru the larger marshall cab i had played thru (model name has left me now) and the results were beautiful ..... as far as punk rock goes. The sound was Enourmous!!!!!

This also works well with backing vocals you wanted dropped out a bit in your mix too. We did this as well and it was really fun and sounds key.

you can have a listen at www.myspace.com/kingswoodmusic

Now back in my home studio im having trouble just miking my stupid amp. i cant get close ot what sound we got there .. it just sounds terrible. but im going to work on it slowly. Ill get it eventually.


The room im using is a fairly large Living room , plaster walls hardwood floors and stuff.. but not much else in the room aside from a sectional couch and a tv stand.

Should i be using something ot baffle this shit in situations like this?

 

[tourettes5139]

hahaha,

in dutch GAT means ass

so how you mic an ass? eheheh

With an AKG c1000 of course!! I have heard that mic referred to as "the dildo mic", so it only makes sense that.......................uh..................er.................nevermind.

 

[earworm]

engineers are so gross

 

[gbdweller]

I've had good luck using an SM57 hung into an "isolation booth" consisting of a mattress and/or couch back surrounding the mic in a corner. Point the mic at your favorite speaker and leave about 1-2ft of space between the 'baffles' and your amp/cabinet. The sound is similar to an isolation booth with a subtle room reverb. Place a mattress over the top of the pile to get rid of the reverb. Good luck....