For those of you who rail incessantly on Behringer...

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listen to his recordings, and tell me if sounds like "typical" behringer shit...you'll probably say no way, but i can guarantee you his 8-channel preamp, tube preamp, outboard compressor, monitors, 1 of his mics, and probably some other stuff all say behringer on the front. don't get me wrong, i'm not gonna sit here and defend them, or say that they're the best value on the market or anything, but maybe a lot of the problems people have with their gear is the people, not the gear. just a little something to think about.
 
Fair play - some at that stuff sounds pretty decent. Although I would point out that mics and converters are rather different to pres and compressors. I wouldn't have any problem with some of Behringers pres and outboard (apart from reliability), but I suspect he has a half-decent interface and one or two nice-ish mics in his setup.

Good thread dude, it would be interesting to see a full gear list ... and a photo or two of his tracking spaces.
 
Behringer products are a great value and consistantly get great reviews. Don't listen to the bashers, most of whom have nothing in the way of quality recordings to back up their "high end" ramblings.
 
The drums didn't sound that clear. a bit harsh perhaps; the rest were alright.
 
I'm convinced that a good song is gonna sound like a good song no matter how it was recorded (and conversely, a shite song will still sound so, even if done with the best of gear). A good song - good performances - can make less-than-great gear sound great.
 
mjau said:
A good song - good performances - can make less-than-great gear sound great.
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It might still be a good song and a good performance, but it won't sound as good as it could have if better gear had been used.

Of course much of it depends on skill, but the better tools you can put in the hands of a skilled person the better it will sound.
 
Good thread dude, it would be interesting to see a full gear list ... and a photo or two of his tracking spaces.
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i used to have a list, but it's nowhere to be found. i've recorded there before(1st time in a studio, actually!), as i played in a band with him before i moved from IN back to CA. off the top of my head, i know he has the following:

audix d6
sennheiser e609
sm-57's/58's
oktava mc012 pair(or whatever model # the sdc's are)
rode nt-1
a-t 3035
behringer b1
a couple more mics i forgot about

and then there's all the behringer stuff i mentioned before, along with a furman power conditioner. he originally used an aardvark q10 for the interface, but a few months ago traded it for a firepod...but i believe he still uses mainly the behringer pres over the ones in the firepod.

i also forgot that the almost-never-used mixer is a behringer eurorack

the tracking space is a single room, roughly 10x12, with completely bare drywall all the way around, ceilings about 8' high. nothing special really, but it somehow works. again, the point is that even with the most modest gear and recording space, it's entirely possible to make good sounding records with the proper experience and knowledge. it's taken him a few years to get to where he's at, but the simple fact is that with a garage full of behringer stuff and some decent mics, he does enough business through his studio to pay his bills...so much in fact that he had to quit his network admin/computer repair job to keep up with the demand. and to top it off, this is in a shitty little town in indiana, not fucking los angeles or even indianapolis.

just a few things to think about
 
What you should be thinking about is not whether or not you can get decent results from a Behringer. Anyone with wny experience knows you can. However, those same people also know how much better it could be if you were not handicapped from the get go by the bulk of Behringer gear. Thats what I would be thinkin about;)

As far as EDAN's statement. All the "good reviews" is a full on load of bullshit. There are only a small handful of actual reviews by people with actual knowledge and experience that really show Behringer products in a good light. There are however more reviews than I could possibly count where those people with experience, talent, and proven success absolutely refuse to use it unless special circumstances apply or they have no other option.
 
xstatic said:
What you should be thinking about is not whether or not you can get decent results from a Behringer. Anyone with wny experience knows you can. However, those same people also know how much better it could be if you were not handicapped from the get go by the bulk of Behringer gear. Thats what I would be thinkin about;)

As far as EDAN's statement. All the "good reviews" is a full on load of bullshit. There are only a small handful of actual reviews by people with actual knowledge and experience that really show Behringer products in a good light. There are however more reviews than I could possibly count where those people with experience, talent, and proven success absolutely refuse to use it unless special circumstances apply or they have no other option.
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exactly. believe me, he doesn't like having to use all that behringer stuff, but he sort of "inherited" the studio and all the gear, so he's been making the most of what he has.

that's also why i didn't buy anything with the big B stamped on it...but it's all about making the most of what's in your reach
 
I have not listened to the stuff yet, but when I am back at the studio, I will. Personally, if it is good, I would consider that a testament to the musical act and the engineer, and not to Behringer.

Once again though, I am NOT saying that good work can not be done with Behringer. What I AM saying is that in almost every one of those circumstances the work would have been much better if the Behringer stuff had not been used;)
 
The truth is that, entry-level equipment can lead you pretty far. but to that extent, you can learn a lot from the equipment to step upto high-end stuff.
 
he definitely only charges for behringer gear.

Recording: $20.00 per Hour

Mixing:
-Demo Mix: $5.00 per song
-Production Mix: $10.00 per song

Mastering:
-Demo Mastering: Free
-Production Mastering: $5.00 per song
-Commercial Mastering: $150.00 flat rate
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i couldn't go that low if i wanted to.
 
wonder how it would sound with a high-fi stream, myspace seems to kill most mixes
 
he's definitely undercharging.

the only thing i'll say is, all of thoes guitars sound the same.
 
tbone36109 said:
wonder how it would sound with a high-fi stream, myspace seems to kill most mixes
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Yup...why don't you use soundclick? the high streams there are good.
 
You'll have to excuse me but.......I'd rather listen to 60hz hum than what I heard on that link you sent us to. Tell me you do NOT call that music? If that is music than indeed I've passed on into another world. Sorry, but screaming and yelling and banging will NEVER be music in my book.....and perhaps not even worthy of Behringer gear........even the distortion specs are lower than the drivel I just heard......... :eek:
 
well i hate to tell you, but punk and metal have been considered music for, oh, 30 years now
 
roadwarrior said:
You'll have to excuse me but.......I'd rather listen to 60hz hum than what I heard on that link you sent us to. Tell me you do NOT call that music? If that is music than indeed I've passed on into another world. Sorry, but screaming and yelling and banging will NEVER be music in my book.....and perhaps not even worthy of Behringer gear........even the distortion specs are lower than the drivel I just heard......... :eek:
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dont be a little bitch
 
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