dynamic vs.. condensor..just wondering..

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So how come everyone always hypes that SM7 for basically any kind of vox in that price range...

I've never heard a dynamic mic sound as good vocal wise as a condensor...but then again I've only really known that i'm hearing what I have, which is: sm57's, 58's vs. SP C1/ AT4040...

haha

I don't know, just wondering..
 
Q: Who do you most often hear hyping the SM7 over (usually Chinese made) condensors for vox?

A: Americans

Q: And where is the SM7 made? :D
 
Mark7 said:
Q: Who do you most often hear hyping the SM7 over (usually Chinese made) condensors for vox?

A: Americans

Q: And where is the SM7 made? :D
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All right then get an M88. Same difference.
 
Oh, I'm sorry. I made a slight error

For you to be a wanker would require you being able to find it in the first place.

If the SM7 is made in Mexico it's no doubt as rubbish as the SM57s are now.
 
China-mania

January 20, 2005

Shure Expands Its Global Reach Into China
Microphone and Audio Electronics Manufacturer Opens Facilities in Suzhou and Shanghai

Shure Incorporated announced today it has opened two new locations in China: a manufacturing facility in Suzhou, and a sales and marketing office in Shanghai.

"China is a very important market for our strategic growth goals," said Sandy LaMantia, President and CEO of Shure. "This expansion will strengthen our Company's position by allowing us to respond to the growing global demand for our products."

Shure also stated "our next plant will be built in a Jungle using Monkeys as a labor force. We will first implement the Monkey workforce into the Quality Control Division at the new China plant, as they will work for Bannanas and Quality does not add to the bottomline anymore,
thus Profits will increase by .00002cents per microphone minus the cost per Bannana's. They will be fully trained and will be critical for the Jungle Plant start-up. We just want to make money, Quality isn't that big an issue anymore. The guy that started the company is dead and gone so who gives a fhk about Dumbass musicians and their fhkng Quality. We are following the Wharfedale Co. lead. We have been discussing changing from metal mic-housing to plastic but are waiting on the Marketing guys to come up with some Blllsht spin to convince dumbasses that Plastic is better and this Generation is better than the original SM57's.

per the Shure Financial
Sr. Exec. John L. Greedyfhkr

http://www.shure.com/news/pressreleases/pr-nammw05_china.html
Daily Harrold News Central Press:::::

add it:.......clarify
Actually it's not WHERE their made that gets me going it's the "thought
process" of the money-moguls that pisses me off. arrrgggghhh
I'm pro-Engineer, they design stuff...labor of love... which capacitor, which preamp etc...
but often are driven to reduce costs which often means
Quality components are eventually swapped out for cheap crap.

I imagine in time the China made stuff will get the Quality consistency
down...Mfg. growing pains. It's really Hit and Miss right now.

back to your question...
what i read..SM7 has better sht/crap room relfection rejection
than a open mesh LDC... thats what got me to buy it.
i would think in a pro studio LDC are much more
common and the SM7/Dynamic is a
"need it sometimes" mic for certain circumstances.

really haven't heard much hype on SM7?
no article i read said it's their #1 Vox mic? i read numerous articles.

.
 
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Hopefully they're just building the PG crap there. They probably don't have a choice, with the pricing pressure they get from all the other Chinese manufacturers.
 
my new SM7 was built in Mexico per the box.
I don't have a "vintage" one so i've no clue for
quality comparisons...
splitting hairs on Quality? probably. but the Quality control is everywhere, DVD/VCR's etc... their "cheap" alright, disposal in many cases!
hey? disposable microphones? hehehe
Mfg. quality...fhk it...nothing we can do about it.

the SM7(dynamic) design works well at rejecting room-noise, for lack of better termonolgy. I was playing with it yesterday, like sitting there with a Vox and acoustic guitar much less acoustic bleed, as i'd hoped.

i think it only makes sense a open-mesh, typical LDC, would pickup room reflections more...just from looking at it/physical build.

I read that type of stuff which is why
i became interested in the SM7 mainly.(my room has front wall and front corners fixed up with traps etc.. no ceiling and sides work yet! and is what I'd call noisy-high reflections...that sweetAssDryawll sound!! :)).

.
 
COOLCAT said:
the SM7(dynamic) design works well at rejecting room-noise, for lack of better termonolgy. I was playing with it yesterday, like sitting there with a Vox and acoustic guitar much less acoustic bleed, as i'd hoped.

i think it only makes sense a open-mesh, typical LDC, would pickup room reflections more...just from looking at it/physical build
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LDCs simply have higher sensitivity, so you place them further away, which makes the room noise relatively louder with respect to the source.

The SM7 is real low output, so you tend to get very close, avoiding the above problem. The beauty of the SM7 is the closer you get, the sweeter it sounds.
 
COOLCAT said:
...the SM7(dynamic) design works well at rejecting room-noise, for lack of better termonolgy...
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I was going to say that the good condensers (non - Chinese capsules) are noticeably more "open" sounding to me. That is, they seem to allow some "space" around the sound instead of just picking up the sound by itself, making it more 3-D, shall we say. This would easily translate into more “room” sound.

One common mistake of comparing mics is just listening to the peaks and valleys of the frequency response and never notice differences in dynamics and overall 3-D characteristics.

Both have their uses and everyone should have at least one of each. :)
 
maby (just maby) the sm7 is a good mic?
and that's why it gets acolades?

or maby it's a part of the vast left-wing conspericy
 
Dynamic *vs.* condenser? Both OK. In short, cheap condensers often sound better through cheap preamps than dynamics. As the quality (read "clean gain") of the preamp increases, the practical differences between the two become less. They are still two different animals, but an MD441 into my Avalon might as well be a condenser. You just turn up the gain. When you do that with cheap preamps they tend to make noise and distort. So frankly, if you're using a mixer or a standalone, I usually recommend condensers. When you get into the $500 per channel or so range, good dynamics become increasingly desirable. God, would I like some good ribbon mics!-Richie
 
The sm-7 gets hyped because it's a great mic with multiple uses for a very good price.
 
I play and sing alot in front of a mic through my Yamaha MG mixer. I setup a mic at about the 12th fret of my acoustic guitar between the guitar neck and my chin. The SM57 is very usable this way (through headphones). Like someone said before, crank up the gain, and in my case, I have to crank it all the way up and get pretty close in to the SM57. I don't get any distortion or any more noise than using my condensor mic. The condensor sounds better but picks up all the traffic outside and room noise. The SM57 sounds kinda thin, not too bad though, but does'nt pickup nearly as much noise.
 
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