Diverse Mics

[Hi_D_Ho_Man]

I understand that different mics record different voices qualities differently . I plan to get an AKG4000B soon. What would be a good choice for a second mic of similar class with a noticably different sound. I dont have singers to test with and I dont sing myself, but I'd like to have variety on hand if the need comes. Thanx all.

did I use that word enough times??

 

[Hi_D_Ho_Man]

^ anyone

 

[chessparov]

There are are many reasonable ways to get useful "different" microphones.
One way would be to get a good dynamic microphone to go along with a
condenser. A nice sounding mic pre (or better) will help considerably.
Just curious, what made you choose the AKG for your next purchase?

Chris

 

[Richard Monroe]

Shure SM7B. You never know when a good dynamic will be righy. And it's so good on cabs and toms.-Richie

 

[chessrock]

Like Richard says, get a good dynamic like an sm7 an RE20 or a Senheiser, etc.

If you have the funds, then definitely have a good look at some Ribbon mics, as well. Beyer and Octava, for instance, make some relatively inexpensive models that get some very good reviews and are popular.

Also have a look at some Tube mics. Rode NTK, GT (Groove Tubes), CAD, Marshall, and many others are kicking out some seriously decent-sounding valve mics at some attractive prices these days.

 

[Hi_D_Ho_Man]

Thanx everyone for the input.

And to answer chessparov's question about the reason I chose the c3000b... A friend of mine who taught me the basics of cubase likes it alot. I did a search here and i didn't come across anything too negative so I put it on my list.

So a good dynamic mic is recommended as well? I gotta read up on the ribbon and tube mics.

 

[Richard Monroe]

I second Rode NTK. At it's price point, it's a great vocal mic that has numerous other applications.-Richie

 

[littledog]

well which is it? first yousay you are getting a c4000, and then you say you are getting a c3000?

i've never heard a c4000, but i definitely would NOT recommend a c3000, and there has been PLENTY of negative comments on the c3000 in the past.

i know, because i made a lot of them...

 

[Richard Monroe]

I have to say, I love C2000B, I dislike C3000B for most applications, and I've never heard a C4000B, but I'd like to.-Richie

 

[Hi_D_Ho_Man]

Oops! I meant 4000, i guess now everyone knows that I'm not a proof reader .

 

[Thom IV]

I have a c3000 and a c4000b, as well as a Shure Beta87a (my main squeeze for live stuff), as well as an sm57 and various no name cardioid condensers for various applications...

I like the c4000b so far...seems to add a little mid range emphasis, which is good for my vocals as well as my guitar (Taylor 410).

The c3000 has a lot of high end emphasis which tends to be good with my vocals (very bassy), but does NOT work with the guitar.

I'm starting to look at my next mic purchase and am debating a Rode NTK or a Groove Tubes 67. I've heard lots of good things about Studio Projects C1, but I'm guessing that the C1 (from what I've heard, in conjunction with the specs--not that you can tell ANYTHING from specs) sounds similar to the C1.

I'd be interested in hearing from folks that have used the C1 as well as the c3000...

Tom

 

[chessparov]

And I'm "guessing that the C1 sounds similar to the C1" also!

The AKG C3000B was way too bright for my taste, and the C1 works much better on me. Only took a few months to figure it out.

Chris

 

[DigitMus]

I don't care for either the C2000 or C3000 (B or otherwise) but the C4000B has a place in my mic locker. Until I got my first Brauner, it was the best sounding LD condenser on my voice (& a couple of other voices). For that particular application it beat out the AT4050 & 4033, Neumann TLM103 & M149, AKG C414B ULS, PVM T9000 and several others. It just sounded "rich" or "full" without getting "muddy". As far as a mic of a different "color" for the same vocal applications, the TLM103 or AT4050 might do it for you - I'm not as stoked about the new crop of less expensive LD condensers as most people (especially on vocals), but you might like them. Just be sure to audition them in your own recording situation first (as you should with any major gear purchase).

SG

 

[Thom IV]

Tom said (much like an idiot...):
"but I'm guessing that the C1 (from what I've heard, in conjunction with the specs--not that you can tell ANYTHING from specs) sounds similar to the C1"

Doh!!!
Oh goodness.....hehehe....
Must have been something I smoked....

What I meant was that I was guessing that the C1 sounds somewhat similar to the C3000...

Ummmm....yeah...I think that's it.....

Tom

 

[Brent Casey]

And I'm "guessing that the C1 sounds similar to the C1" also!

The AKG C3000B was way too bright for my taste, and the C1 works much better on me. Only took a few months to figure it out.

Chris

If you can see one C1, you'll see one C1, but if you see three C1's, you do not see one C3. If you see a C4, you'll see two, but they are not C2's. However, I could see to it that you see two C4's. See, two C4's are better than one C1. Why? For one, two C4's have four heads while one C1 has one and as everyone knows, two C4's with four heads are better than one C1 for overheads.

Sincerely,

Brent Casey
Studio Projects Microphones
877-563-6335

p.s. Don't forget the LSD2 too!

 

[Son of Mixerman]

well which is it? first yousay you are getting a c4000, and then you say you are getting a c3000?

i've never heard a c4000,

Search the web Littledog..they are all over the internet.

SoMm

 

[chessrock]

How the hell did this thread get dragged up?

This thing is like a year old.

 

[Thom IV]

Sorry...that would be my fault...

Ive been doing some searching and couldn't resist responding...

Brent--thanks so much for the poetry...you've certainly made my day a little more surreal...

 

[PinkStrat]

I also own an AKG C4000B--it's a great microphone! One of my favorites in fact. It works extremely well on vocals, acoustic guitars, electric guitar cabinets and so on. It also matches up well with a number of things; such as their AKG C-391B (on acoustic) an old SM-57 or Sennheiser MD421 (for guitar cabinets). It also works well together with the Shure KSM32/44, CAD E-350 & A-T AT4047SV too. Just about everything works well with the C4000B (not to even mention that its self noise is a mere 8 dB) The sound of the hypercardioid pattern is worth the price of admission alone IMHO...unique sound and easy to work with. I find the C4000B has some more soul than many different LD mics. FWIW, I also like their C2000B on certain amplifiers. Richard Monroe is correct!

 

[DJL]

I understand that different mics record different voices qualities differently . I plan to get an AKG4000B soon. What would be a good choice for a second mic of similar class with a noticably different sound. I dont have singers to test with and I dont sing myself, but I'd like to have variety on hand if the need comes. Thanx all.

did I use that word enough times??

Shure SM-7
Shure KSM32