Delta 1010 Sounds better than: Everything?

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I heard someone mention in passing (gidge i believe) that the Delta 1010 sounded "crisper" than other cards.

Well, i already want one for stability/driver reasons... but, does it really sound better? like say, recording at 24/44.1, or 24/96..whatever...it has superior A/D converters or something?

I have an Aardvark Q10 - should I be jealous?
 
its always been known as one of the best sounding soundcards. the only cards that sound just as good or a little better are the ones with crystal converters.
 
Most cards like the Deltas,Aardvarks,Hoontech's, Echos,etc are using the same brand converters, AKM's...how these companies incorporate and shield the converters do have something to do with it, and Delta seems to do a great job with that....

with that said the 1010 uses the AKM 5383's for A?D conversion, which is about the better sounding, most dynamic range ones out there right now......however, they do use the 4393's for D/A conversion, but no biggie....

another reminder is that are these specs are just that...numbers...in the real world that doesnt mean diddly squat and all it takes is to play back a good reference CD thru some good monitors and youll hear the subtle differences between the cards......

p.s. if you are using a SoundBlaster card, dont A/B it with a Delta 1010 because youll find yourself about $500 poorer......
 
ok, i guess i will be happy with the aardvark then. Though gidge, reading the literature more I dont think it is possible to bypass their preamps. I mean, you can use whatever preamp you want of course, and run that singnal in, but then it is still tainted a bit by the Aardvarks.

I just wish I would have bought a 1010...and 2 audio buddys...to have the stability of that card driver wise.

Aardvark sucks. still no really good Win2k support. Plus, i am wanting an RNMP, or a Grance, or a VT1 before long...or all 3 :). I guess having the 8 pres built in is pretty nice though.
 
Gidge said:

p.s. if you are using a SoundBlaster card, dont A/B it with a Delta 1010 because youll find yourself about $500 poorer......
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I am debating adding a delta 1010 with my SB AWE card, what did you mean by this? $500 for what? BTW - I'm sticking with Win 98.:)

Thanks.

Bighand
 
Bighand said:


I am debating adding a delta 1010 with my SB AWE card, what did you mean by this? $500 for what? BTW - I'm sticking with Win 98.:)
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I beleive Gidge was implying, If you ever A/B a Sound Blaster with a Delta1010, you would be so impressed with the sound, you will drop 500 dollars to get one as soon as you can.
 
The 1010s A/D D/A is just about the best out there (in terms of cards). Just listening to CDs and MP3s through the 66 and 1010 is a trip. The 1010 is clearer, crisper and more detailed.
 
The best price I've found is $569 @ AMS.
Is there a 1010 for $500?(not the lite)

Thanks,

Bighand
:)
 
The 1010 doesn't have mic pre's right? Also why do you need two soundcards?

Thanks.
 
wes
almost positive you can bypass the preamps on the q10.....

bighand
Wildfire hit on exactly what i was saying...its almost like when guys here get their first condenser mic and have never used one before...you would think they are hooked up to a u87 they are so impressed.....so when doing comparisons, keep it apples to apples....

f. lai
the 1010 does not have mic preamps...alot of people use a second card like a SoundBlaster for its midi capabilities...higher end audio cards usually dont have onboard synths like SB's have.....

bighand
ive seen in the last month or so someone posted a price for the 1010 like $480...it may or may not have included a rebate...i cant for the life of me find the post....imagine that, Gidge without a link:eek:
 
Thanks Gidge. I'll try the search engine for "480". That's a significant difference in my book.


Gidge-
Since I have a Mackie board, do you think the 1010 is overkill just for the possible noise reduction of the breakout box? Since the "lite" is so much lighter on price maybe I should buy the lite and save the $200+ for other gear? Perhaps I'll hit the SE(search engine) for a .vs example of the two.

Ahh I found it.
http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=43913&highlight=delta+1010

Bighand
:)
 
Bighand,


There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to noise levels. One of the major points of getting the 1010 aside from the extra ins and outs is that the converters are not on the card, they are outside the computer. This lowers your noise floor significantly especially if you dont have quiet fans or a water cooling system (which is supposedly virtually noiseless.) The typical good card (with a dynamic range of around 100dB) on the typical computer will get you to around 80dB (with gain) at line level and much less with a mic and pre...probably somewhere between 55dB-70dB (post gain), depending on the mic's self noise. Getting the converters out of the computer gives you significantly more headroom. With the 1010 for instance your line level can jump to around 100dB (depending on your cables and mixer) which will give you signifcantly more clarity and definition. Thats why going with an extrernal converter makes sense if you dont need the 8 ins on the 1010. M-audios flying cow which has a dynamic range of 102 dB or so is better than the 44 or 66 or audiophile which has the converters in the computer and will give you more headroom and a cleaner conversion although as far as specs they dont seem to be much different.
 
i've got the q-10 too, and problems

I had things up and running on the q-10, but now I can't find my q-10 drivers in the cakewalk track menu and I've done everything to get them back, but still no luck. I think it'a aark;s beta drivers possibly. I think I'm gonna invest back into windows 98 and put the aark on that with my p4 1.5 ghz. Anyone see a problem with that and does anyone know where I can get win 98 for cheep. I know the price of $199 at compusa is a rip. Thanx u digital nerds
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Gidge said:


bighand
ive seen in the last month or so someone posted a price for the 1010 like $480...it may or may not have included a rebate...i cant for the life of me find the post....imagine that, Gidge without a link:eek:
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I posted that www.bayviewproaudio.com had it for $490. I just checked and now they have it bundled with a mic for $599.

Then I checked www.8thstreet.com, who had it for $529, and they went up to $575! What is going on here? We're in a recession. It's President's day for crying out loud!

Glad I got mine last week.
 
Yeah I saw the Bayview "jack" too. How convenient... I could always use an extra mic, but not one they stick down your throat.

I'll be patient. (little voice in my head: "no I won't... yes I will..)


Bighand
:)
 
turn that mic loose on ebay...who knows, you could get $200 from those jack-asses........
 
Hmmm ... From what I read on the zZounds website, people seem to have just as many issues with the Delta as with the Aardvark cards. Of course, It's usually the gripes that get posted in the reviews.

I have the Aark24, a little older model (24bit, 48khz, no mic pres) and after a little initial trouble, it's running fabulously on my system - an AMD Thunderbird 1.4Ghz on an Epox 8k7a+ mobo ... And believe it or not, I'm running WinME (and I like it - so there).

You can find the Aark24 for around the same price as the Delta. I have no gripes at all about the card, but I don't run 2000 or XP for audio recording (the NT kernel is the DEBIL).

I think it's a little silly to PAY for win98 now ... It's pretty old. Find a friend who has it and burn a copy. Yeah, it's not exactly legal. It's your own moral dilemma, not mine. But to pay for 98 in 2002 is odd, imho.
 
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