Collaboration with Guernica and Lt. Bob

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Oh at last the parts are assembled and the mixing has begun...

First thing...thank you very much Mike and Steve for these terrific additions! :)

Cast of Characters:
Guernica: Bass
Lt. Bob: Horn
Sluice: The other stuff

Methods for collaboration: I recorded basic demo tracks and linked Guernica and Lt. Bob to the MP3. They loaded it into their systems, over-dubbed their parts, during which time I re-recorded my final tracks on my end. Then they sent me a CD. The CD tracks were stereo splits: Original track panned to the left, their additions to the right. I loaded them into Wavelab and removed the original (left) track. Then I saved the right side (bass or sax) as a mono track to be loaded and mixed in Sonar. Pretty neat.
Now, Lt. Bob gave me 13 tracks to choose from! And they were all excellent candidates. I picked them apart for about 2 hours last night, made a decision, slept, went to work, came home, changed my mind. Very good candidates. So what I did was use one track that I liked the most as the main ride. Then I found a spot where I thought another track or two might blend in well. So there's a moment where during the ride, out from the side a couple pieces from the other rides chime in. Hopefully Steve isn't aggravated with my experimentation. :D

Guernica, listen to how I handled the beginning and tell me what you think.

Pull no punches please... ;)

Thanks a lot

"Look Away"
www.nowhereradio.com/sluice/singles
 
I'll drop some detail later, my pizza just got here, but I had to hear this first..

excellent! That first sax solo @ 1:25 is totally sweet..

bass and vocals excellent.. recording and mix, very good..


pizza for the third time this week, sux!:mad:
 
Killer! wow, that bass part @1:56 was something. Vocals are great SluiCe as always. Sax is really really great, don't know what i think of the blended sax part yet hehe(like you really give a shit:D ) I mean it sounds damn good but I don't know. Anyway's this is a great piece of work between you guy's...5star production all the way!
 
May I be the first? This is the reason some of us respond by saying, "I will be selling all my gear, and will never play again". he he he he he he. But here's my comment. You guys should sell your belongings, get enough to move, quit jobs, carry the women, if any, and live together, so in about 1 year after this, us no talented screws can go to Wal-Mart and buy ya'lls cd. yeah baby. I hate each and every one of you. he he he he he he he he

But seriously, this is REALLY good music, and I for one, have the upmost respect for you guys. When any of you respond to my music, like you all do, I know that I'm on the right track.

dtb
Dan and Nancy (my wife liked this also)

(sorry, but you guys posted while we were listening and I was typing)
 
This is kicking some serious ass! Only mix gig would be push the bass up a little. It sounds so tasty, I want to hear it more. Other than that everything sounds killer. I'd give it three thumbs up but I only have two.:D
 
OK, now it's a single horn ride...

dtb- tell your wife and yourself I said thank you very much. Very generous comments :)

Track Rat- Thanks for the ears...I'll see how a couple more people are hearing the bass on their systems before I make a move, especially Guernica. You may be right. Thanks a lot man!
 
another excellent tune..

I have the first mix also.. I like the horn volume on the first one better than the remix.. They sound a bit loud on the second version.. like louder than the vocals.. The bass sounds a little light on both though..

I'll be back after a few more spins..
 
Really a change of pace for your vocals, Tom... the R & B thing... never would have seen it coming...

Something about those little hi-hats bugs... that's about it... everything else is just... words fail... the sound's like the vision of a perfect apple... enticing, round, crunchy, full... tasty... it feels real, and dynamic... nothing fake about it... LISTEN to that Lt. wail... awesome... the G man walking up and down on those lows... love it...

Your acoustics always sound great...

The ONLY deterrent for me so far... the "hissy" hi-hat sound... it's... pissing on your vocal track... or something... like a mosquito in your face, or something... a bit irritating...

At wizoosounds.com, you can download instrument sounds for about $5-7/pc... some of the high hat sounds are really excellent; 12-layers a piece, etc... they come in all formats from Halion to LM4 to Battery to whatever... just a sugg...

Excellent collab... great dynamic vocal BTW... gotta love those frog-sticks :D


-C
 
Fantastic!

Great tempo and the sounds have almost a live feel to them.
Acoustic is awesome, full and out front. Sax is sweet, and has a nice tone and volume. I could stand to hear the bass up a tad but thats just me. G is using a real low end sound and it is probably tougher to blend. I would have no idea since I only know how to put stuff in your face. I need to work on developing the touch that you have for mixing your tunes.
Your vox are superb
This is a real interesting piece! Was that an organ in the background?
Love the use of percussion!
Damn Sluice you have a great sound!

My hats off to the contributors also!
G is one of the finest bass masters I have heard on this BBS and the Lt. seems to have no end to the talent he wields.

I am in awe!
 
The internet colab is the best part of the whole deal here, imo. That is totally great.

Now...looking past that..

Things seemed to be pretty decent, mixwise..and all that stuff.
The problem with this is that I find this to be an average song in my book. Would be excellent live, but as a "sitting on the couch with headphones, with a book"...it is ok. The sax is the winner here. Great sound, and choice of notes. I did like the little bass ditty at 1:54. What bothers me, is that the high level of musicianship that is between the three of you isn't showing like I would hope it would. Not saying you all have to play like "flying fingers leroy"....but it just sounds kinda "typical"..for a lack of better words.

Now...after spouting all that previous bullshit. ....this is really good for internet mp3 music. Would I buy it??...NO...would I recommend "the group" to others for other tunes to listen to??....YES on that.

I feel like I am giving some harsh remarks...but take them lightly...eh?

afterall...I give it a B+ as compared to prof. commercially released music.
 
Hey Tom......
.......As you already know, I think this is a great song. .....and a hell of a lot of fun to collab on. Tom sent me this as a click track (a whole note kick and quarter-note hats), accoustic guits and vocals. I wanted to mention that because i thought it was very cool that he would allow others to potentially maul his songs w/ too much creative freedom.:D .......very cool.

Bass: I now wish I would have used a little brighter tone when i tracked this. .....something that would have added a little grind to the slides, and a little more high-end definition. I like the low punch, but I missed something..... mmmmmm..... I might like to hear it a "little" louder...... but, I think the answer is a slightly different tone. btw: nice edit.... ...nice! :)

I didnt get to hear the mixed sax parts...... 'cause NOBODY fucking cares .....TOM!:p :D The sax mix that i am hearing
sounds perfect. Perfect levels, verb................ VERY well done.
......and Steve my brutha....... another beautiful job playing.

Nice Vocals too man........I like the new phrasing for the Choruses.

Thanks for the Jam bro, Mike
 
Okay...first of all, it sounds great overall. I'm listening on headphones, and the kick sounds warm and wonderful. If it's not clipping, then my hat's off to you.

Tom, I hate to make you do this, because I'm sure you've posted your method for recording acoustics 1000 times, so could you make it 1001? I'm not looking for the exact chain so much as I am the technique. I'm thinking you hype the highs a bit, and I'd like to know how much (even if that number is zero). I'd also like to know which git you were using.

"blind as a bat, with eyes open wide" - dude, what IS it with you and small mammals???

Man, the horns just sound great.

The kick is offering so much low end, I'm thinking that the bass would cut through better if it were tamed a bit.

Keep in mind, these are "I thinks" and "maybes"...you've all heard what I do, and this is so fucking far out in front of it... The product is brilliant. Fantastic stuff, AND YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT SLuiCe's ramblings, so just accept my congratulations and get on with more of this.

bye,
Chris
 
sounds great..........interesting collaboration technique.......it seems to have turned out great.......solid song......the sax sounds great....the vocals are excellent...........good job
 
Likewise. Great job everybody. Mix seems just right to me--everything is where it ought to be. The playing is perfect. Even Lt. Bob sounds good here--OK OK--just joking! :D He's always superb...maybe the best sax player on the planet is all. hey, I thought the bass sound was just right--wouldn't have wanted it any brighter. Its doing its thing in the right register and frequency bands.

I love seeing this collaboration stuff. Its good for music, for recording and good for the soul. Thank you guys!
 
Bump.........

I know that stars represent the flow and content of a thread......

but if I could give them for music, this would get 6 stars !

I really like this tune!

:D :D :D :D :D :D

How about 6 smileys !
 
Hi guys...just got back from a hunting trip and I'm too tired for a big response. But I just wanted to thank everyone for listening and giving all your varying feedback.

I thought Lt. Bob and Guernica did a great job of making a simple little acoustic ditty into fun rocker, even if they had no idea that's what they'd be doing :) Another fun experiment!
 
SLuiCe said:
Hi guys...just got back from a hunting trip
Click to expand...

Were you armed with ego? :D Did you kill--er--find any answers? :D :rolleyes: :D Were the woods dark and full of sound...? I could go on and on here :o





;)
 
I can tell that the boys have been busy!!

After a listen or two, I've nothing to say but nice job.
The pieces blend with tactful use thereof...

Nothing like being put in your place (not that I ever really leave my place:) )

No sence in telling you that it is tight and good. The song and mix says it all..........................

Peace,
Theron.
 
What can I say, except to echo everything everyone else said.....great arrangement and the mix imo is spot on.....

My only comment, would be that you have a nice guitar 'hook' which you started with.....however its not being pushed to the front enough for the rest of the song....... I could hear it being repeated every now and then with the bass and the sax playing it as well....almost turn that into your total 'hook line'.....this IMHO would turn this from a good song into a great 'catchy' song....

Great playing all 3 a'ya.

Keep up the good work guys...

Nick
 
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