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what frequency range is considered the "bottom" is that 100hz and below or what?
 
it depends.......

the "bottom" of an electric guitar can range formm 80-200htz
the "bottom" of a bass guitar is around 100htz
the "bottom" of a kick drum is around 60-80htz

but usually if you boost anything below 80htz, thats where you start to "FEEL" the bass, like when you feel the walls/floor shake from the bass response. below 60htz is when your start pushing some air and getting some rumble through the woofer of a speaker.
 
what about the bottom for vocals what reange is that?
 
Depends on the vocals and what they are singing.
But generally the voice stays above 120Hz or so.
 
keep in mind, typical human hearing starts at 20Hz.
 
Humans have a hard time hearing low frequencies, and certain high frequencies at certain sound levels.

Do a search for Fletcher-Munson equal loudness on Google.

Here is a graph of "typical" human hearing response curve / dB level.

This is whal the "Loudness" button is "supposed" to compensate for.
 

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tarnationsauce2 said:
Humans have a hard time hearing low frequencies, and certain high frequencies at certain sound levels.

Do a search for Fletcher-Munson equal loudness on Google.

Here is a graph of "typical" human hearing response curve / dB level.

This is whal the "Loudness" button is "supposed" to compensate for.

one of the best things that ever happened for my EQing was the discovery of Fletcher-Munson

All hail Fletcher
 
spectrum analysers

I know at the end of the it comes down to what you actually hear but I recently added waveshell plugins to my rig & the PAZ analysers help a lot to see what sort of bottom frequencies are being pushed most

I had one either side of a 10band EQ
 
that's a nice detailed graph. i'm going to search the fletcher-munson. thanks. does anyone ever put a low pass filter at 20khz when dealing with vocals?
 
mixaholic said:
that's a nice detailed graph. i'm going to search the fletcher-munson. thanks. does anyone ever put a low pass filter at 20khz when dealing with vocals?
20k is as high as anyone can hear. Most people can't hear much higher than 15khz. The 'air' in the vocals is closer to 10khz. Sibilance is between 5k and 8k.
 
will it make sense to roll off at either 16khz or at 20khz?
 
Why would you bother? There isn't anything up there to roll off.
 
mixaholic said:
will it make sense to roll off at either 16khz or at 20khz?
Only if your neighbor's dog starts howling every time you playback that track ;).

G.
 
it sounds somewhat different whenever i put a low pass at 16hz. it sounds a little more dull. they make some EQ's and multiband compressors that go all the way up to 30khz. i don't know why they would go that far up though cause that would be hard to hear lol. :D
 
that's great... but who the hell cares??? you can't hear it...

Jacob
 
bryank said:
it depends.......

the "bottom" of an electric guitar can range formm 80-200htz
the "bottom" of a bass guitar is around 100htz
the "bottom" of a kick drum is around 60-80htz

but usually if you boost anything below 80htz, thats where you start to "FEEL" the bass, like when you feel the walls/floor shake from the bass response. below 60htz is when your start pushing some air and getting some rumble through the woofer of a speaker.

Do you guys usually roll off those instruments below those "bottom" frequencies? Or roll off a certain frequency for an entire mix?

I was messing around with frequency sweeps and noticed some nastyness down there in some mixes that I don't notice on my home speakers, but seem to in the truck speakers.
 
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