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    Quote Originally Posted by miroslav View Post
    Over the years...most threads at HR (and other web forums) never lead to anything...just a lot of banter....but then, that IS what forums are meant for, and not a place to come to global conclusions...explain that to your wife.
    It's something to do...back in the day, women would stop at the fence line while hanging clothes to dry, and they would chat and gossip....while the men went to the pub to raise a few points and talk about stuff.

    So from her Clinical Psychologist perspective...what does she think we should be doing in the thread that would be more productive...that would actually help the virus situation?
    I'm also curious...does she believe we should be hunkered down with this hide-in-place mentality until the government tells us it's OK to come out...or does she lean more toward a relaxed approach...which are the two main topics in this thread...?
    Miro....

    My answer: I think lots of threads here come to conclusions and help lots of people get to concrete answers. But I love the long conversations about this and that too.

    Her answers: She has no idea what a conversation / thread would look like that would solve any of the questions and issues raised. That's over her pay grade. She gets that this is an over the fence conversation between friends.

    She thinks that there's going to be a point in time.......based on economic circumstance and the progress of the virus.......where getting back to normal is absolutely critical and there should be no objections by anyone when that time comes. She warns that people will fight that when there's no longer a need. She doesn't think the time is now. She does think there's a lot of un-needed hand wringing over the virus......and the worries about the economy are also over hyped by people that hate to be controlled in any way. By that she means that those with the LOUDEST cries over the shutdown mandate are likely more about being controlled than about actual $$$. When people bring up the big brother thing........that's what she's pointing out. She thinks that BOTH sides have legit worries and fears that shouldn't be dismissed or demeaned by anyone. That said.........she doesn't want to be a part of our group conversation. Ouch....can't blame her for that.
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    Yeah, you can find conclusions and helpful info in many threads...but my point was that often the debates and discussion continue on...which is a normal thing on forums. I always hate when some people say, "OK, can we please stop talking about this"...or when threads are closed just because they've gone on a long time, even though there may not be any real arguing, just endless debate. It's a forum...that's what it's for...to talk about stuff.

    I think your wife has some good views, and I agree...a lot of people will fight getting back to normal out of future fears...you can already see it on a variety of social sites by the comments some people are making about what we need to do in the future.

    AFA the Big Brother thing...while we are not currently in that situation...don't kid yourself that the existence of fear and panic by a majority of the population is not an open door for Big Brother to come in. If the majority of people were to decide post-virus that they wanted to feel "safe" and at any cost, and they had the numbers to vote into place whatever legislation was proposed to achieve that...well, that worry about being controlled would become a reality for those who didn't want to give up everything to feel safe.

    Up in Canada, Trudeau was just recently saying that he wanted to have access to all cell phone activity..."to help fight the virus"...???
    People were like...WTF?...how's that a legitimate action. Now I don't think he will get it...but just making the point that Big Brother mentality is not far away.

    I like to consider that huge number of life risks we already live with every day, and many have been around for ages, and the best we can do is pay insurance against them, but many risks we can't control. As one example, just look at how many deaths/accidents are caused by drunk drivers. You would think if people focused as hard on those numbers, that we would be in another prohibition era...but no, people simply accept that risk...they think it will not be them that some drunk driver ever hits and kills.
    It's something about the virus...the fact that it's small, unseen, has its own process that we can't control...etc....and that seems to freak people out more than any drunk driver will...but when you consider that in a given year, we have well over 10,000 deaths from drunk drivers....year after year...it's a serious number, but we are OK with that.
    That's just one example of the risk involved with living.

    I use the ride a motorcycle back in the day, and I use to be a hardcore skier. I read somewhere that people who those things, and stuff like skydiving, etc...have some "death wish" mentality...because the risk is a lot higher than other activities, but we still do those things because they make living worthwhile.
    You see some of those SciFi movies that depict a very sheltred/controlled society in the future....and in all of them, the plot ends up with some people rebelling against that, so I think it's human nature not to be controlled...but then...we have history (and current reality in some places) that tells us entire populations have accepted being controlled with some sort of collective mindset, and it's never been good. It can happen, all to easily.

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    I caught a 1 hour documentary on the coronavirus....looks like it was put together a few weeks ago, since the story ended around early March.

    They went through the basic stuff...how it started, how it spread...etc...but there were two things I learned that I don't recall anyone discussing in the media all that much.

    The first one...it turns out that the reason the USA didn't have test kits in those first few weeks when everyone was asking for them wasn't really Trump's fault, or some government SNAFU. It looks like it was due to some CDC decision.
    It appears that the WHO already had a test kit for COVID-19...but here in the USA, the CDC decided that they wanted to come up with their own test, rather than use the one that the WHO had developed.
    So that slowed things down...and then, the initial test kits turned out to have some faults...so then it took some more time for them to get that sorted out.
    Once they did, then the test kit production went full-tilt.
    Now I don't think the CDC acted on some government directive to not use the WHO tests...it was probably because they wanted to make sure the test met their guidelines and all that...but it ended up taking more time, and they lost some footing in their fight to test people rapidly.

    The second thing I learned...which pretty much confirmed what I've been saying, that all this lockdown stuff will only prolong the virus...is that the game plan now IS to intentionally prolong the virus spread...with the reason being that but "flattening the curve" they are not expecting to reduce the number of people being infected...they just want to slow that process down, so the healthcare systems can catch up.
    So the spread of the virus will NOT be lessened with all this lockdown stuff, which is what I've felt would be the case all along, and the virus will just run its course.
    They're just stalling for time...but they still expect 70-80% will be infected in the USA, regardless how long we stay shut in, because the virus isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
    Now I get their reasoning...but they are setting up a huge trade off, with an almost guaranteed recession if they keeps us locked down for a couple of months ore more...and if it turns out to be several months, it could be even worse, maybe a depression...but the takeaway is that this lockdown will not lower the number of infected in the long run....so people keep saying staying home will save lives, but it's just going to prolong the inevitable, and the only way more lives may be saved is if the healthcare systems can recover quickly and get ahead of the spread, thereby being able to provide more/better care, and that may save more lives./

    I dunno...seems to me like a roll of the dice...with nothing guaranteed...but people need to understand that the virus will be with us for quite awhile, and many more will still get infected, not matter how much we stay inside.

    Oh...it was also kinda interesting and curious...that they ran this documentary between 2-3AM on the east coast...and I checked their programming for the next few days to see if it will be on again, maybe during the daytime...and nope, couldn't find a replay...though I only went out a couple of days.
    Anyway...you would think it would be on during primetime....but maybe they don't want people to have too much info.

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    Yes....yes......the idea is certainly to prolong the virus.....yes........in order to not overwhelm the hospitals......so that everyone can get a chance at the best possible treatment. That was always the idea.

    I got rid of my 2001 Harley Softail last year. I've had a bike ever since I was 15. Riding around Florida was like taking my life in my hands. People texting and driving would wander between lanes........stop on a dime......and not stop behind me at a light. I'll tell you.......when I first got to Florida in 2001....riding around I saw some older people wander and drive slow.......but it was nothing like facing all those idiots who couldn't take their eyes off their cell phones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickster View Post
    I got rid of my 2001 Harley Softail last year. I've had a bike ever since I was 15. Riding around Florida was like taking my life in my hands. People texting and driving would wander between lanes........stop on a dime......and not stop behind me at a light.
    I never actually owned a motorcycle but I borrowed one for a few months when I was a teen..Several friends and relatives owned Harleys but I just could never justify the bike with business and raising the family thing. That said the plan was that once the kids were out of the house and there was some disposable money I'd get one...Finally the day came that we were in a position to let me have my bike. I called my cousin who always owned one and was always bugging me to get one so we could do rides together..No cuz don't do it...it's not the same anymore..I sold mine last year after another friend was killed by these dumbass drivers and their cell phones... I was a little disappointed but just backed off and realized I've ended up with some cooler things than a Harley that won't get me killed ( hopefully ) They are called grand kids...woo hoo! Bonus round! I may get a dirt bike but damn falling is a bitch when you're bangin on 67 so I guess we'll see... .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickster View Post
    Yes....yes......the idea is certainly to prolong the virus.....yes........in order to not overwhelm the hospitals......so that everyone can get a chance at the best possible treatment. That was always the idea.
    OK...but how are the overwhelmed hospitals in NYC being helped by prolonging the virus spread statewide...?
    IOW...up where I am, if anyone gets sick, they are not going to drive 1-2 hours down to NYC hospitals....they will use the local hospitals, none of which are overwhelmed AFAIK.
    The other point...most people are under the impression that we are staying home so that the virus passes by and we don't get infected...but that's not the case.
    AFA waiting for a vaccine...12-18 months, at least.

    So by prolonging the infectious spread...it will just delay the inevitable.
    Now I better understand where Sweden was coming from with their thinking. Get it over with faster by letting it run its course faster.
    AFA the overwhelmed hospitals in the cities...they're still not seeing a slowdown with new cases, which is not surprising considering that this virus had already spread long before we closed the gates.

    My motorcycle story...
    When I was in my early 20s, I wanted to get a chopper, because that was the cool thing. I was still living at home, kinda still going to school...so my parents were against the idea of a bike, but I persisted, and finally my dad said OK, but at least get a stock bike, rather than a chopper.
    Well, I couldn't afford a Harley even back then when they didn't cost as much as a small house...so I figured if I can't get a chopper or a stock Harley, I'll get the meanest, fastest bike at the time...which was a Kawasaki Z1R....it could hit 140MPH, though the most I ever pushed it was 120MPH, which was cool at the time, but kinda nuts when I think back, because one slip, a blown tire, etc...and I would have been a bug on someone's windshield.

    Still had me some fun with that bike. Road it all the way from NJ (use to live there) down the outer banks of NC, and went camping on Ocracoke Island with three girls who drove down in a pick-up. One of them ended up becoming my girlfriend...and her and I later went camping with the bike, all loaded up with sleeping bags and pots-n-pans...it was a sight to behold, but good times all around.

    After awhile, the bike wasn't getting as much use...always had to use a car for things, so eventually I sold it...but at the time, that Z1R was a screamer.
    Had it set up with pull-back handlebars, and a two-tier seat with backrest.

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    Brother Miro.......you're still not willing to even think that there is any possibility of any person being saved by a hospital that had what they needed to do so....anywhere? If not....then what? It was inevitable? That doesn't seem like you. I think most people are indeed staying home hoping they won't get this thing.......but knowing it could happen....and hoping they'll be able to get the care they need if it does. There's nothing unreasonable about that sort of thinking right now. In my case I'm hoping I can skate by until a vaccine arrives.......but I know I might get it. BTW.....NYC is reporting that the infection rate MAY be lowering and the next week or two might tell the story.

    Where did you live in NJ? I lived up there for quite a while in Montville in Morris County.

    Yup....I remember that Kawasaki. Guys like you used to pull up next to me and my Harley and dare me to take them "off the line". As you know......that's like a turtle trying to outrun a deer. I don't have a 3 girl story like yours. As with your new studio......I now have another reason to be jealous of you. Oh well.......what can I say?
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    I sold my bike after 15 tears of riding this last time. I just wasn't fun, you have to drive so defensive there is no joy. So I bought a bug. Not much safer and it is so low powered you have to really drive the thing in a hilly area. Plus parts are are so easy to get for them, except for 67, a one off year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickster View Post
    This thread is now all about who backs down first. The human need for validation and stature is overwhelmingly strong and a part of most peoples personality. Ok.....that stuff comes from my wife who....as some of you know......is a Clinical Psychologist. She's read this thread. She may not be correct.... but......she's pretty good at her job.

    OH DAMN! We're being analyzed! For free!

    Well she had to get a giggle or two and at least a few head shakes out of this quagmire of myopic opinions and testosteronically fueled egos... arf! no..... ARFITY ARF ARF! ...arf!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickster View Post
    Brother Miro.......you're still not willing to even think that there is any possibility of any person being saved by a hospital that had what they needed to do so....anywhere?
    You're misunderstanding me.
    I never said that the hospital care was a waste of time...just that in most cases, the people who can be saved, are probably saved thanks to their own survival mechanism. I'm sure some were helped by the support from the hospital.
    My real point is that staying home is not going to stop the spread, which was well underway before we ever got that directive...and then fact that we are not really under actual quarantine status, so there are still a lot of people out and about simply due to the nature of essential needs.

    The other point...someone staying at home up in the Catskills of NY...is not going to have any impact on NYC hospital overcrowding which is caused by infected city dwellers.
    If anything...they should have *quarantined* the entire city, but instead, many city people headed out for LI and up north....so that's where the spread here came from.
    Right now, we're just killing time, but the virus will most likely still be here 3 months from now, so when they finally relax things...will you feel any more safer going out than you do now?

    I lived in a few places in NJ, mostly central Jersey...my last address was in Jamesburg, down between East Brunswick and Englishtown.

    Oh...speaking of the girls....that one summer was a blast.
    I went camping with as many as 5 of them a couple of times, until I finally cut the one out of the heard and we became an item.

    Speaking of Harleys and the Kawasaki...even though my Z1R was a screamer, I was still envious of the people riding Hogs.
    One time I pulled into a bar to meet some friends, and there were a bunch of bikes parked outside, mostly Harleys.
    So when I finally came out to leave...some of the riders were outside on their Harleys...and as I got on my Kawasaki, a couple of them were singing the theme "Kawasaki let's the good times roll"... ...kinda busting my chops, but I knew they couldn't catch me if I had to make a run for it.

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