Electoral College & Trump's 2016

Ah. A FOX news watcher. That explains it.
And there it is! You're quick to chastise someone simply for saying that he was watching a Fox program. I watch The Five also, mostly for entertainment, along with the "truth".
I also watch CNN and MSNBC every day, just as I have always done for years, especially during the Obama/Biden years.
I watch because I'm open minded. Unfortunately, you are closed minded because of your total disdain and hatred of Republicans and Independents.
I have friends who are Democrats. Open minded Democrats, who are capable of listening and discussing.
By the way. Miro is correct. All the latest Biden revelations will not be reported on by the lame stream media.
I survived 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Trump. I'm certain I could survive another 4 years of Trump or 1 year of Biden.
 
There was a piece on ABC news buried a bit on their webpage...pretty much trying to do nothing more than raise as many doubts about the Hunter/Joe Biden collusion with Ukraine and China as they could. They are basically assuming all the info that the NY Post turned up from the Hunter Biden laptop hard drive...is somehow possibly a plant by Russia...or some such nonsense.

The others...CBS, NBC, CNN...they are not even trying to discredit the story...rather they are just not even talking about it.

Twitter somehow managed to completely go down today, not just to block the story...which any betting person would say they pulled their own plug rather than show they were specifically blocking the Hunter Biden story.

It's interesting, and obviously shows just how left-biased all these media outlets are, in the way they endlessly ran with the Trump/Russia story for the last 3+ years, when none of it was true...and they still bring it up as a smoke screen...but they refuse to even talk about the possibility that the Hunter Biden story is true, and that all the money China, Russia and the Ukraine put in his pocked was to gain favor with Joe.

It's so sad to watch how much actual news reporting has become the political arm of the Dems/Libs...and the scary part that people are either to stupid or simply happy to accept as "convenience", how much big-tech is controlling what they see and hear. It's exactly the type of mass population control that China has implemented, and they only allow media to feed to the population what their dictators want. This is coming to a smart phone near you if the socialist liberals take over the USA.
 
There was a piece on ABC news buried a bit on their webpage...pretty much trying to do nothing more than raise as many doubts about the Hunter/Joe Biden collusion with Ukraine and China as they could. They are basically assuming all the info that the NY Post turned up from the Hunter Biden laptop hard drive...is somehow possibly a plant by Russia...or some such nonsense.

The others...CBS, NBC, CNN...they are not even trying to discredit the story...rather they are just not even talking about it.

This is coming to a smart phone near you if the socialist liberals take over the USA.
ABC actually asserted that the Hunter/Joe Biden collusion story is another hoax orchestrated by Russia?
The one thing that ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and NPR have in common is their failure to turn middle/rural America hard left. Middle/rural Americans are not easily swayed to go far right either.
Middle/rural Americans are not easily fooled. The Electoral College exists for good reason.

About that smart phone? That's why I don't own one.
 
So get this...Twitter and Facebook and Google went out of their way to block anything about the Biden/Ukraine collusion, and the emails that show just how much Joe was involved...and when someone asked Joe today about those things, he replied that since Twitter and liberal news media blocked it, it supports his choice not to talk about it....????????????


:wtf:


He's using the liberal news/social media as justification for not having to answer questions that emails show he knew about the money coming from Ukraine, Russia, China to his son for the exchange of access to Joe and US politics.

:facepalm:

I'm not surprised by the social media shills...they need Biden to protect their hands-off standing (Bill 230) safe...but there use to be decent news journalists on ABC, NBC, CBS at one time, who no matter of their personal politics, would always be tough equally on any politicians who appeared to have some kind of corruption cloud hanging over them. Now...they completely give Joe a pass and they don't even ask him any kind of questions about it...at least to give him an opportunity to deny or explain something.
The telling sign is that the Biden team has NOT said the emails on Hunter's laptop were false...instead they are letting social media and the liberal news do that for him by never talking about it.

We don't need to worry about Russia or China meddling in the election...we got Twitter, Facebook, Google and all the liberally biased media doing plenty of meddling in Joe's favor.
 
I don't think the public ever gets the full, true story ever.

I don't think Trump colluded with the Russians. I don't think Hillary did either. I think they took dirt on the other from wherever they could get it. Politicians have been doing that since the beginning of this Republic.

Don Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer and Hillary/DNC bought Russian dirt from an English spy. Neither is a crime, and both are equal in their reprehensible behavior. THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME, RUSSIAN DIRT. That's what the Dems called Russian collusion. So, if a meeting with a Russian is collusion, buying 3rd party dirt from Russia is also collusion. I wasn't shocked or appalled by either. It's the way politics works. I was shocked and appalled how the Dems twisted it to Trump colluding with Russia. That was just beyond insane. But the Dems are liars.

The hypocrisy of twitter/facebook and the MSM is, they gladly allowed and reported for years how Trump colluded with Russia, using a fake dossier as proof, and are now banning this Biden story. It just shows what partisan scumbags they are, and helps the opposition. Because it gets the unknown person who no one cares about angry enough to have their voice heard.

I think this is a great win for the Republicans. Even if you can't publish it on social media, news gets around. Since it's not being debated, you can mold it to whatever you want.
 
Has anybody had a chance to see WGN News Nation? They are advertising unbiased reporting. I don't have cable, but it looks like they stream. Might be something worth checking out.

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And there it is! You're quick to chastise someone simply for saying that he was watching a Fox program. I watch The Five also, mostly for entertainment, along with the "truth".
I also watch CNN and MSNBC every day, just as I have always done for years, especially during the Obama/Biden years.
I watch because I'm open minded. Unfortunately, you are closed minded because of your total disdain and hatred of Republicans and Independents.
I have friends who are Democrats. Open minded Democrats, who are capable of listening and discussing.
By the way. Miro is correct. All the latest Biden revelations will not be reported on by the lame stream media.
I survived 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Trump. I'm certain I could survive another 4 years of Trump or 1 year of Biden.

I don't watch any cable news. It lacks depth and detail, and it's too partisan and unethical to be useful or trustworthy IMO.

The traditional print media is far superior.
 
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I don't think the public ever gets the full, true story ever.

That's one of the age-old objectives of Russian propaganda - to convince people that the truth is unknowable. It makes the people powerless and increases their ability to manipulate your beliefs. That's why they poison the well with so many lies. They hope to divide people and reduce the actual truth to a mere one of many alternatives.

Knowledge is power. They know that and are making you weak.
 
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Well there sure isn't any depth-n-detail on prime-time TV news...and it's become 100% biased, with most of the prime-rime news outlets acting as the communication/propaganda departments of the Dems/Libs and avoiding any potentially bad news about their favorite candidate, while never hesitating to spread false truths as news about the opposing candidate.

I'm just curious why the leftist media is so afraid to ask Biden some hard questions, and then also follow-up on many of his teleprompter lame answers...?
What are they scared of...that he will look bad, and that could tip the election to Trump...?...but I thought the media...the mainstream "journalists" were always after truth in reporting, and to get into the "depth-n-detail"...?

I guess not.
You can see it on their faces that they know Biden is a dud...but their Trump hate keeps blinding them.
 
There was a piece on ABC news buried a bit on their webpage...pretty much trying to do nothing more than raise as many doubts about the Hunter/Joe Biden collusion with Ukraine and China as they could. They are basically assuming all the info that the NY Post turned up from the Hunter Biden laptop hard drive...is somehow possibly a plant by Russia...or some such nonsense.

The others...CBS, NBC, CNN...they are not even trying to discredit the story...rather they are just not even talking about it.

The Washington Post fact checker already debunked it:

More broadly, the New York Post repeats the falsehood, advanced by Trump, that the “elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company.”
We have fact-checked this repeatedly.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/14/hunter-bidens-alleged-laptop-an-explainer/
 
Well there sure isn't any depth-n-detail on prime-time TV news...and it's become 100% biased, with most of the prime-rime news outlets acting as the communication/propaganda departments of the Dems/Libs and avoiding any potentially bad news about their favorite candidate, while never hesitating to spread false truths as news about the opposing candidate.


This is where your information is coming from:

Washington Post said:
U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House last year that President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani was the target of an influence operation by Russian intelligence, according to four former officials familiar with the matter.

The warnings were based on multiple sources, including intercepted communications, that showed Giuliani was interacting with people tied to Russian intelligence during a December 2019 trip to Ukraine, where he was gathering information that he thought would expose corrupt acts by former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

The intelligence raised concerns that Giuliani was being used to feed Russian misinformation to the president, the former officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information and conversations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...158900-0ef5-11eb-b1e8-16b59b92b36d_story.html

Washington Post Fact Checker said:
The New York Post said it obtained the material from former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a personal lawyer to President Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/14/hunter-bidens-alleged-laptop-an-explainer/
 
Actually...the Washington Post is "fact-checking" ancient BS...but they don't have the hard drive off of Hunter Biden's laptop, so they are not "debunking" anything...rather they are just regurgitating old BS to act as smoke for Biden.

This is about the latest revelations...not stuff from two years ago. :facepalm:

Let's keep it simple....the Biden camp has yet to say the emails being currently shown that imply Hunter was/is on the take with Russia, China and Ukraine...are not his.
That's pretty telling.

Stay tuned...there is a lot more new information yet to come. So go prepare your old "debunking" posts.

This is NOT about Giuliani....this is about a computer guy that received Hunter's old laptop.
To suggest that the Russians planned all that out in advance...and knew that the repair guy would go through all the steps he did...is fantasy on the part of the so called "debunkers". The leftist media became so good at lying about and inventing Russian collusion by Trump...that they can't get past it...or more likely they won't because they are protecting Biden, just like they protected Hilary.
 
Let it go...and instead, start working on your empty rebuttals about the latest Biden corruption news that has been breaking today...that the liberally controlled social media outlets immediately attempted to block in order to protect Joe, which basically amounts to election tampering.

Actually they are trying to protect folks like you from becoming useful idiots for Vlad Putin.
 
Say these words out loud: "I trust the politician who gets his information from the Russian Government more than I trust American intelligence agencies or American journalists."
 
Actually they are trying to protect folks like you from becoming useful idiots for Vlad Putin. Too late though.

Oh...so when all else fails, we get to the name calling.

Yup...that pretty much underscores that you are just a leftist shill...here to spread misinformation.
What's really sad though...is that you are either totally blind to the leftist BS, or you are part of it...I think it's the latter.

The liberal shills in the FBI were getting their Trump information from a Russian operative...and they knew, Obama knew and Biden knew that Hilary was going to use that fake info as a smoke screen to cover her email server mess....and the leftist media promoted it for 3+ years.

That's who you trust.
 
The liberal shills in the FBI were getting their Trump information from a Russian operative...

That's completely false. They got a small fraction of their information from a British operative who was working as a subcontractor to an American firm.

The main Trump information that is an indictment of Trump is the fact that five Trump associates are now convicted felons - all for lying about and hiding their connections to the Russian Government.
 
You really are good at twisting things...more smoke to cover the Biden mess that is emerging rapidly and will blow up just in time for Nov 3rd. :)
 
Smoke and mirrors on both sides. I bet we don’t have a fucking clue as to what is REALLY going on.

On this computer business... allegedly the shop owner is a Trump supporter..... okay I can get that.... then he turns the info over to the FBI. How does he know who exactly to contact????
He also turns info over to Giuliani. How exactly does a small business owner gain access to high level people?????

I could call everyone I know for a year and never gain access to Rudy.

Maybe the info on the computer is real, but who the hell downloads all their emails onto a hard drive, then drops it off to a computer repair shop and forgets about it??? Especially with damning, or at the least embarrassing content on it.

Something fishy about all of it. Sounds orchestrated to me.

Oh one other thing. All this Russian hogwash. BS!

Israel, Google, Twitter, Facebook, MSM all have much more involvement in election manipulation.
 
Lots of people have their emails on their computer...I still have emails from 15 years ago all tucked away in an Outlook file.
It all depends on the email server/service you use.

AFA the FBI...they are in the yellow pages. Anyone can call them: Contact Us — FBI

AFA getting to Giuliani...I'm not sure the guy simply called Rudy and said "Hey..."
It was probably through someone...and in this election year, it's not hard to locate each party's "people".

AFA the computer being forgotten...well, Hunter was probably smoking his crack pipe.
There is apparently a receipt signed by Hunter Biden acknowledging that he has 90 days to come pay for/pick up the computer.

Again...let's assume ALL of it is a 100% fabrication by Russia or the Trump team...and that they made up all the emails, put them on a laptop, etc...etc.
Where then is the Biden camp to say all the emails shown so far are NOT Hunter Biden's...???...and that the laptop was never dropped off...etc...etc....???
Wouldn't you and everyone else do that if you knew someone was fabricating everything against you...?
 
That's one of the age-old objectives of Russian propaganda - to convince people that the truth is unknowable. It makes the people powerless and increases their ability to manipulate your beliefs. That's why they poison the well with so many lies. They hope to divide people and reduce the actual truth to a mere one of many alternatives.

Knowledge is power. They know that and are making you weak.

Well that's PARANOID.

But here's what Obama would say to you on Russia -

 
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