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    I took a friend to see Diana Krall. I could tell that it was completely out of her comfort zone. To her, jazz all sounds the same. The concerts that she likes the most are the "Happy Together" tours at the state fair. Give her some 3 Dog Night, some Turtles and put Mark Lindsey on the stage and she's a happy lady!

    When we would carpool to work (50 mile trip), I has a special CD with 190 hits from the 60s, 70s and 80s and she would be singing along with most of the songs. It was like listening to the oldies channel and she loved it.

    I'm guessing that in 40 years, there will be grandmas riding around with Billy Eilish, Taylor Swift, Kesha, Maroon 5, Ed Sheeran and Justin Beiber blasting out of the speakers of their self driving cars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalismanRich View Post

    I'm guessing that in 40 years, there will be grandmas riding around with Billy Eilish, Taylor Swift, Kesha, Maroon 5, Ed Sheeran and Justin Beiber blasting out of the speakers of their self driving cars!
    Nah, the future will be sound transmitted directly to your brain. Sound externally will be heavily fined as pollution. One design fires it direct through the eye with a mircowave range laser.

    Amazons' preOrdering Appetite for Destruction from a phased array, at a 40 watt range.
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    Wherever she's recording I'd be a lot more impressed if she had an outstanding voice - I haven't found any evidence that she does. She seems to go for a manic-depressive niche similar to Adele but with nothing like Adele's vocal chops.

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    I havent listened to her songs much but the James Bond tune is really good and her vocals are very good, FInneas showed he can write on order.

    Agree, wouldnt put her at Adele's level either but also heard some similarity to adeles-pronunciations of some lines, raspy whisper parts.
    Theres also the comparison that Adele was the one sweeping the Grammys years ago and still holds some top Billboard spots. Its likely we dont see them doing the sweep again, thats a one time thing I think.

    One thing I do is look for unplugged stuff, like videos of an artist doing a radiio or podcast song and from what I saw on NYLON, her and Finneas are able to sound very good like Adele and her guitar player in "unplugged versions". The talent is there.

    If some big movie company put a competition on Home Recording for $400,000 to the winner, and set one week to write and do a demo....
    I doubt I could be at Billie and Finneas No Time to Die song level, or McCartneys Live and Let Die- Bond song...which I just saw a video on Amazon, where the drummer said he was there watching Paul write it and it took like 10 minutes or something. Finneas said it took No Time to Die 3 days.
    Ive listened to that tune about 20 times and read about it. Id give it 5 stars for the Bond thing...is it the Best of all the Bond themes? I dont know.

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    It's a bit depressing, but I quite like it. However, it's fine to claim it was recorded in their bedroom because it's clearly a sample package product with a vocal over the top. In fact, I think I have some of those sounds in my system. It's not like they have to do much live recording is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob aylestone View Post
    It's not like they have to do much live recording is it?

    It's songwriting not playing live that got her where she is...her strength is in her painting her thoughts with words and melodies...That many of the sounds and tracks are "canned" is true but she and her brother take those canned sounds and turn them into gold...That said she was playing the keys very proficiently at 12 in the video above so it's not like she's NOT a "real" musician...She's a very talented musician, singer, songwriter and performer...
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    [QUOTE=brassplyer;4528303] I haven't found any evidence that she does. QUOTE]

    At 12 she was doing this...but then again I'm easily impressed...


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    Quote Originally Posted by TAE View Post

    At 12 she was doing this...but then again I'm easily impressed...
    OK...but you can hit YouTube and find hundreds of people doing the same thing, at that same, or even better level.
    There's nothing really outstanding there, other than that she get the break...while the hundreds/thousands of others still have not, and may never.

    That's what modern music is about...getting the big machine behind you, and then you're the "phenomenon".

    I never thought that Lady Gaga was anything special...she can sing pretty good, and the rest was ALL image and focused marketing of it.
    Same thing with many other Pop stars...but that's how the system works...every couple of years the music industry kicks out a new fashion trend.

    I've been listening to a local, and somewhat "underground" station...kinda like college radio, but not as rough around the edges...and the high quality of music and songs that will hardly EVER get the same exposure as some new Pop star, is astounding...but that's how it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miroslav View Post
    OK...but you can hit YouTube and find hundreds of people doing the same thing, at that same, or even better level.
    There's nothing really outstanding there, other than that she get the break...while the hundreds/thousands of others still have not, and may never
    I would say that Alma Deutscher is many times more talented than Billie Eilish.

    She hasn't won any Grammys, but she did manage to play with the Welsh National Opera Orchestra, the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, and the Vienna Chamber Orchestra, among others, and sold out Carnegie Hall, playing her own compositions. Not too bad of a resume for a 15 yr old.

    That's the nature of pop music vs many other forms.

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    Yesterday, I had our monthly lunch with the 'Old Gits' an invitation group where to be in it you have to be a musician, over 55 or so, and like food. Sitting around that table are people who have made music their career. It's paid mortgages, looks after the kids, and been a great thing to have been. We all live within 50 miles of each other. Some have worked together, but most just move in small circles with the same friends - a bit like on Facebook. We always reminisce about this and that and the clear fact with musicians is that having chart success and even lots of money has very little to do with how talented we are. Watching TV interviews with Billie and her brother suggest a proper, sound musical background and that shouldn't be taken away from them - but their James Bond track is just following in the wake of so many others. I've not heard anything else they have produced, so I'm basing my comments purely on this - my first Billie Eilish track. It's nice - but by today, I've forgotten the tune and the chord progressions. So memorable, it isn't - unlike so many of the others where something in it clicks. Even Skyfall, one of similar ilk to this one has those unusual intervals that rise in true bond fashion in the Skyfall phrase section. Very memorable even if you don't like Adele. This is just one of the more forgettable ones. It will of course do amazingly well - but that has not too much to do with being a good track. The true star of all these tunes is the 5th, sharpened 5th and then 6th sequence. I can't think of any other musical motif that has been used so often, but in so many different genres.

    I made a few quid from track versions of Skyfall for shows, but I doubt I'll get asked to do this one.

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