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Not thought of the Doors, K - but I see the comparison. It is not my vocal. The drummer on this project, a good friend, plays in a cover band w/ his brother in law. I thought his voice timbre was really well suited to the material and asked if he wanted to take a pass at it. He liked it and...

That's part of the limiting effect. It brings the vocal "up front". I don't think I changed the vocal levels between the two. You're right, nonetheless. I agree that the vocal needs to come forward a tad in the second to be more "equal".

Limiting has a natural "nasal effect" via human ear sensitivities. When compression occurs, it is not restricted to volume alone. Frequencies come forward too. If there's a softer, say cymbal, sound, that frequency range is going to heighten in the mix as well. Limiting brings ALL the softer...

Your ears did not deceive, Ray. I also think the 2nd is more natural. The 1st has more "polish" applied. But limiting is a "sound" to itself. It increases clarity, but at a cost of sonic dimension - space "around the sound" is lost. In extreme application, it can squash the life out of the sound...

Hence my vacillation, Rich. I think the second one sounds more "natural" - even if it is a less "polished" sound. But that's exactly why I asked what folks preferred - because though I recognized the difference in limiting, I wondered what other ears found more appealing. Thanks guy!

I think the click might have been a bit much so I cut back in the 2.7k range to pull back on the beater. Thanks for the check-in Keir!

Dobro is right. This could have been a cast off from the Beatles White Album - those doo doos definitely have a British accent. :D

The funny thing about this song is the fluidity and improv around a structure. This is just what it sounded like when we performed it for the recording. We almost never played it exactly the same way twice - which is why we loved playing it live. We just would riff off each other.

It is EXACTLY what the difference is - so it makes a TON of sense. I'm pleased you heard the difference. The 2nd one has more "air" around the parts - but because of that it is more diffused and less "sonically tight". The caution is one CAN overdo the squash in the tightening. The trick of it...

I've overused limiting and so I'm uber cautious regarding over application. Still - as I weighed the differences - however subtle, my thoughts leaned towards what I'm hearing from folks: "Yes. Perhaps less limiting has a thicker depth of stage, and sound more "natural", but the clarity of...

That's the magic of limiting. Everything gets pulled tighter together with improved clarity (bigger sound) being the result. I admit that I'm drawn to the tighter sound, while at the same time, I hear the glossy sheen and it sounds less natural (shallower depth) than the less limited versions...

Listening again, Paul? I'm thinking the improved clarity (bigger sound) may be an acceptable trade off.

I confess I keep vacillating. The clarity of the first one IS better because limiting brings out the details of the softer material better (which is why mix adjustments are required with less limiting). But that clarity comes at a cost of sonic "depth". The sound edges toward 2D versus 3D. It's...

The differences are subtle - to be sure - but the settings between the two are quite less on the second. As a secondary survey inquiry: Is the kick too prominent?

The question is simple: Which sounds better to you? The top one has more limiting on it. The 2nd has less - but mix adjustments needed to be made to bring certain parts up slightly to account for less limiting. But which appeals to folks ear more? I have an opinion ... but I'd like to see what...

Morning Scott! Down thread it is revealed that I found the source: A Waves compressor plug in on the organ. I removed it and the crackling disappeared. No clue WHY it was doing that, but I narrowed it down to that malfunction. The 4/20 mix is the cleaned up mix. Thanks for the help!!

Best thing to do is walk away and let your ears rest. What I find is that it's not so much fatigue as a loss of perspective. The ears still hear, but the brain stops contextualizing the levels. Everything kind of get over analyzed and the listener's perspective loses to the mixer's perspective -...

Down thread, you'll see I found it. It was in a Waves LA3A compressor I'd put on the organ. The DAW just didn't like it and it caused crackling. I deleted it and voila! Crackling gone! I posted up the remix on 4/20 down a ways. I also every so slightly rolled the guitar and vocals back - db or...

I will also share a little bit of a trick on the guitar. During the leads, I set up a complimentary clone track and panned it opposite the original track. Then you dial things in ever-so-slightly and the stereo image of the guitar will shift wider and louder to bring more detail and broadness to...

Although I wrote this, I'm not the singer on it. We brought in the drummer's brother in law (who is a friend of mine as well) to sing it. The funny thing is is he's pretty much mimicking me. Drums were a Mapex kit w/ 8 mics - Mitek Sm condenser OH (2), Sennheisers on the rack toms and fl (3)...