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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolCat View Post
    Glyn Johns book he mentions the missing band and bleed sounds make the recording more "energy" or whatever. A dude talking about recording Dylan was like that too, to get the vibe of the musicians playing off each other as bands do.
    The tracking one note at a time, being sarcastic, is what the home solo thing offers with unlimited tracks which is great compared to wearing out tapes on the old portastudio 4 track..

    what'd george harrison say on his last protools album, you dont even have to know how to sing anymore, correct it all in the computer. I dont think its come that far..... but Ive gotten lazier and will edit instead of redoing the whole track.

    There is something funny about the old stories of mixing albums in days and mastered then out.....and now I know HR mixes going on for 2 yrs ....weird?
    When I spoke of doing things in stages I wasn't referring to one component at a time. Some home recorders have to do it that way just by the very nature of the variety that exists within the plethora of folk that record at home, but I don't think it's preferable. Having said that, if the end goal is something a person listens to, it really doesn't matter how it came about. I don't care if a movie has lots of CGI as long as I can't tell.

    Much of what I said was in the context of a vocalist that feels they have to record their vocal while playing a keyboard or guitar. My point is that they do not and there is a discipline to recording a vocal without something to prop one up like an instrument. And that over half a century back, the means existed for things to be done that way. George Harrison didn't do live vocals when he was a Beatle after 1963 and loads of instrumentalist vocalists didn't either.

    If I had a regular band that had all day and all night to rehearse my songs and play them in studio bookings, I'd do some things differently to the way I've developed over the years. Sometimes, sheer lack of time for the home recorder means that they have to be both an adept player and an adept editor ! And both become part of the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ujn Hunter View Post
    do it section by section and you'll know when you've got it
    When I first began recording back in '92, my whole thing was to capture a song in one go. That's what I had done in the previous 10 years when jamming. But when you're doing some pieces that were 22 mins long, the jamming mind has to die, especially if there are certain parts you want to be a particular way and they don't get done that way. It took me a number of years to finally realize that sections was the way to go. There had been a number of songs I'd been recording with friends in which a mistake would occur or it wouldn't feel right and we'd punch in and it eventually became common sense for me to approach a longer piece in sections. Not every song is recorded that way but a number have been. In the last session I did with a friend who plays drums, we recorded 7 songs, 2 of which was him re~doing drums but of the other 5, 2 were done in sections, the other 3 were done in one go.
    The great thing about sectioning is that you are rehearsing as you record. If you happen to catch the section well, move on. If not, do it again. I think of it as a win~win.

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    Sup, my 50 cents as a singer and voice teacher.

    Recording in multiple takes can be a very powerful tool to study, or a crutch, it depends really on how itīs used.

    Itīs one thing to do multiple takes, all perfectly usable, or 90% usable, and then choose the ones you think that fit best.

    Another thing is to keep doing takes until something good happens by luck.

    While I do not think there is something wrong with doing the later, that can be seen as cheating (as you probably will never replicate that again), and most likely wonīt make you sing better as a consequence of doing it...


    But as a study tool, itīs awesome. Since the option is studying the song without recording what you are doing and comparing what is an actually better choice and making the call listening to what happened. Later, you can just do a final take and sing it on one go or, two or three takes for a long song.

    Cheers!

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    There is no cheating. This isn't a sport. Are you trying to capture a live rehearsal/concert, warts and all, or are you trying to record the best possible song? A recording is "forever", so make sure it's the best it can possibly be.

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    I'm just throwing this out there. Sorry if someone already mentioned it. Record your keyboard on one track. Then turn the keyboard off, and play along with a turned off keyboard. The only thing you'd have to look out for is your fingers hitting dead keys. But, if you position the mic properly it should work with very little noise.

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