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    A few years ago I was writing a lot of good songs, even had some financial success with a few. Then I started buying better equipment, and building a studio; all because I wanted to write more, and better songs?

    Don't get me wrong, I love home recording, but for me it took up all my time to build walls and experiment with all the new stuff and left me with very little time or energy to create.

    There is only one way to write songs.... you have to take the time to write them. This sound's redundant and simplistic, but sometimes the obvious truth is missed.

    If you take a few minutes each day to sit at your instrument or desk... whatever; and try to write a song, the odds are that you will come up with something. The more time you spend at it, the more you will create.

    It has been my observation, that out of ten songs that I write, only one or two will stand the test of time. I play them for my musician friends, and perform them in public or record them and listen to their reactions.

    The more songs I write, the better my odds are of creating a good one. So this takes Time and Time = More songs and More songs = One or two good ones and One or Two good ones = ASCAP Royalties.... = $
    So I can buy more equipment?

    Even If you are not in it for the money.... Seriously, It takes time....

    Dom Franco



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    We're only in it for the money... Ofcourse...

    For now I'm in it to get some of the money out again. And it goes back in anyway. What's the use... But I'm getting more and more out. VERY slowly. Someday I'll be able to by dinner EVERY DAY!!!

    At least I have my day time job to give me the stress and frustration needed for songwritting. And providing enough money for equipement and food. If I get a raise again I might even be able to afford some girl too.

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    Thumbs up Franco: Nice thread

    A few years ago, I was writing average songs and making no money. I am still trying to get it right. Maybe I never will but the point is to keep trying. It is a challenge to find the time to set up a studio.

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    It would be nice to make money out of your recordings/songwriting skills but that was never the reason that I got into writting and playing. It's not why I sat on the end of my bed for two years learning basic chords in my spare time; I loved music, simple as that. I think if you think like that; expecting a higher return than your investment then your music will suffer.

    As for the point of sitting down and intending to write, forget about it. I write when my mind wants me to write, when I feel inspired. (usually two o'clock in the morning). I guess your more disciplined than I am.

    The biggest problem songwriters face is being consistent. Once you make it, it's hard to write about the shit world you live in when your also thinking about which car to drive today. So, do it for the music and not the money (as long as you can get by) and that way you can remain a true songwriter. Believe it or not, there are many songwriter's who do this and have this mentality.

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    Cool Money's not everything....

    For the record; money should never be the only reason for songwriting*, but I am sure that all of us want to be heard! What good is an honest, inspired song that no one else ever hears?

    It just usually follows that a successful song, sells a lot of records (CD's)

    I guess I would still be pretty happy If one of my songs became popular, and I didn't receive any profit.

    Most of the songs I write are *Christian songs. I write about my life experience and my faith in God. I don't write these songs expecting to make money from them, but I want others to hear the words I write.

    Most songwriters feel that they have something important to say, and they want to share it with others. That is why we write and record songs, but it is very cool to hear yourself on the radio, and even cooler to receive an extra few bucks in the mail for the song you believe in!

    Sincerely;

    Dom Franco

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    Very good point Dom. I've been spending all this time at my computer remixing the stuff I've recorded when I could be noodling on the guitar, listening to music, reading stuff that inspires me -- all the stuff that puts me in a frame of mind to write songs. Homerec, if not properly used, can become an addiction!

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    That's one of the funniest things. One day your playing the guitar and enjoying yourself, the next you've got thousands of pounds ($) of equipment and then the problems start. You don't play much guitar anymore because you become so absorbed in finding out about microphones/placement, recording/eq/mixing/mastering and all the rest.

    What happened to the days when I picked the guitar up and played for hours at a time. I seem to spend days on refining sounds I have already recorded (as well as recording other instruments such as bass, keys and drums). The time could be much better spent.

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    I must agree.

    This is one of my biggest frustrations.
    I get up one hour early everyday to write. Have you ever tried to write a record a song in one hour increments!?
    You can get 10 times as much done in 3 hours straight as you can in 3 seperate hours. And it always seems that just as I am getting into the "zone", it's time to get ready for work.
    However, my schedule permits me no other options, so I keep moving forward and inch at a time.
    And now I spend so much time just tweaking EQ's and compressors, or trying to find just the right snare sound, that any real practicing or "noodling" time is gone.
    It's very, very tough, and sometimes I wonder if it's even worth it.
    But here is my main point: Used to be we specialized. Nowadays w/ computers and such, we are all trying to be everything, i.e. guitarist, singer, bassist, engineer, producer, songwriter, etc.
    I wonder if sometimes we would be better off interacting w/ other musicians, and not staring at Cakewalk so much.
    Just a thought.
    Aaron
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    Thumbs up Doing it yourself

    Aaron,

    I would keep it up if I were you. I enjoyed some of your MP3's. You have inspired me with your suggestions in computer equipment and songwriting.

    To me, I enjoy doing all the instruments myself because it would take a lot of time to have someone come in and lay down a track for me. Like you said, the mixing and equipment part of it takes the huge chunk.

    For lyrics, I have abandoned the method designating large amounts of time. I have trained myself to be a lyric junkie, trying to sneak in lyrics on a pad whenever I can. I like coming back to the lyrics off and on for a period of time.

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    An intersesting thought. How many people on this bbs are solo artists (so to speek)? Just think of the bands your could put together. I mean most bands consist of memebers that can barely play one instrument. We can all play, record, mix, master everything to a certain degree.

    On second thoughts, that would mean human contact and maybe even leavin' the house. LOL.

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