Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: favorite dynamic chain for vocals

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2019
    Posts
    62
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    2

    favorite dynamic chain for vocals

    Sign in to disable this ad
    I've got a favorite dynamic chain for processing vocals. It's the Waves CLA-76 into the CLA-2A. I also like the Waves RVox alone. But it's not as transparent as using the other two.

    How do you guys process vocal dynamics?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Midwest U.S.
    Posts
    234
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts
    Rep Power
    499742
    my vocal chain is U47 clone mic > Avedis MA5 preamp > Pete's Place BAC500 Compressor> Motu HD192. Then in the box I'll always HPF. and maybe pull some low mid down, and that's only if needed. That's about it. If I still need to control the vocals dynamics, I'll use clip gain automation, or vocal rider.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    1,776
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 43 Times in 38 Posts
    Rep Power
    420905
    This is an interesting post, so I'm reviving it.

    Going back to fundamentals, I would say that my "chain" first consisted of understanding how the space sounds when you sing. Is it dead and if it's alive, are there any sound artifacts that might come through in the recording. Does added reverb work to treat a dead vocal? Or should I look for a better space to record the vocal track?

    Second, I think about the voice itself and what kind of mic is the best match. I constantly struggle with harsh vocals. So sometimes a Shure SM7b is my first choice. On the other hand, sometimes that mic is not roomy or full enough. It's eliminates most of the room sound, but that's not always a positive.

    Third, I rely on a pop filter and placing the singer (me) at the right distance. I also think about the words I'm about to sing to determine which might cause plosives or sibilance. Then I remind myself: "No sibilance please. Your Logic DeEsser sucks." And put down the coffee, It causes you to sound sibilant.

    Fourth, I plug into a Great River Me1nv routed to an Apogee Duet. The processing is usually simple. EQ, compression, reverb. I use primarily Logic native plugins to keep things simple. I also have some Waves vocal plugins (mostly Renaissance). They tend to be simple with few controls and sometimes I don't feel like digging under the hood. If I use the logic compressor, I sit there all day rotating the attack and release knobs

    Lately, I've been playing around with parallel compression to get more volume out of the vocal. Here, I'm just bussing the vocal to another Logic compressor. I've also been fooling around with multi band compression on the vocal track to address my harshness problems. The idea being to isolate the offending region (3.5-6k?) ad gradually add compression.
    Last edited by dwillis45; 04-14-2019 at 14:44.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    South Florida
    Age
    52
    Posts
    93
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
    Rep Power
    208476
    Going back to fundamentals, I would say that my "chain" first consisted of understanding how the space sounds when you sing. Is it dead and if it's alive, are there any sound artifacts that might come through in the recording. Does added reverb work to treat a dead vocal? Or should I look for a better space to record the vocal track?

    Second, I think about the voice itself and what kind of mic is the best match.
    Well written. I do not have a go to chain. I will use what ever is needed for that specific singer and that specific room get the best sound possible.
    I never go into a situation with pre-determined thoughts
    Online Audio Mastering - Online Mastering & Mixing Studio
    Audio Production Blog - Tips & Techniques Explained In Simple Terms

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    5
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0
    High pass filter (different if it's male or female voice), gentle compression (I often use the stock Pro Tools plugins), parallel compression.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    72
    Thanks
    14
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    yes, old thread, but an interesting one. Vocals is my weakest area, I tend to use this chain:

    1) siblance de-esser
    2) Slate VMR (noise gate, channel console, EQ (FG-S or N generally), FG-401 compressor)

    Buss out to lustrous plates and repeater plugins.

    If it doesn't sound good in the mix, I'll add the Greg Wells vocal plugin from waves, or the Air EQ from Slate to tinker with, or the multi-pressor thingy that Slate added recently. Sometimes I'll try the Waves Doubler on a buss just to experiment.

    Luckily our singer is a one-take wonder so I usually don't have to do any pitch correction or tweaking at all. I *might* dupe the track and apply 100% pitch correction just to get a doubled-vocal if it fits the song.

    What did you all discover that made a huge difference in creating professional sounding VOX? I still feel like I'm fumbling in the dark a lot of the times.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Posts
    5,750
    Thanks
    86
    Thanked 136 Times in 129 Posts
    Rep Power
    4961987
    Ill bump this thread, the dynamic chain for vocals....


    Mic> outboard preamp or straight to interface

    ....then the interface might be clean or have "realtime plugin options" to select mic preamps and dynamics ITB....or maybe spending on some outboard preamps, eq, comps/limiters is preferred.

    So ITB or Hardware....some Neve 73 inspired piece, or 73plugin,....PreAmp
    my current is a Alctron clone of a GReatRiver which is a clone of flavor of the Neve ish...transformers and discrete components..no IC chips.....or a Neve 73 PreAmp plugin/ PodFarm.

    Then EQ...Reaper 11 band...then usually a light bit of comp/and or limit.
    currently the hardware is a KT2A going in, but the PodFarm has a 2A also and much much more, gates/.expanders, eq, an whatever sounds from the ocean of plugins... can put it on later and use Klanghelm comps or the +10DB Boz Channel Strip

    Its a mystery how they did all the recordings before plugins were invented?
    Last edited by CoolCat; 2 Weeks Ago at 06:50. Reason: missed it

    if it's not happening in the room, it ain't gonna happen on tape.-H.Gerst

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Favorite Insert chain
    By Vigo in forum Mastering
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 09-02-2014, 01:16
  2. dynamic eq side chain etc?
    By Cody Suit in forum Mixing Techniques
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 08-15-2014, 19:42
  3. La-610 is off da chain for vocals!!!!
    By mistarags2006 in forum Recording Techniques
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-01-2006, 09:23
  4. Favorite Software Mastering Chain
    By Cloneboy Studio in forum Mixing Techniques
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 11-09-2004, 02:11
  5. Best dynamic mic for vocals ?
    By andre1977 in forum Microphones
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 04-19-2003, 23:51

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •