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    Jumping the CPU ship

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    So, after dumping my AKAI dps 16 (from 1999-2010) and hopping onboard the "USS Computer glitch-lockup-crash-shut down-freeze up", I decided to cut loose an orange inflatable raft and start rowing. I didn't stop rowing until I reach Tascam sd24 Island. And I love it here! Comfortable, warm, relaxing, remote. Just flip a switch, hit Record and Play at the same time and start making music! Awww.

    I know most will claim I had a crappy computer which couldn't handle the cpu load. Maybe. Some might say that software I downloaded off Piratebay didn't help either. Hey, could be. But it crashed before I uploaded any software and this stand-alone never crashes or slows down.

    I'm just wondering who else has jumped ship and returned to the good-old days of Press and Play? It's wonderful not having to learn 50 menus, researching endless reviews, upgrading parts and software just to stay up to speed.

    I was hesitant to go SD card but it's totally silent. No fan humming in the background. I have a dozen 32 gig cards to use, record in 24 bit, have enough effects and compression to do the job. If I decide to dump any finished projects into a computer, I can always finish with Steve Slate mastering or fill-in-the-blank. (or send it to Terra Nova Mastering in Austin Texas (cheap plug) I did a track using the normalize and mastering and it was very impressive.

    Look, I understand wanting the best gear, but come on, NO ONE on this site will EVER get a record deal from the gear you are using. I chased that unicorn for decades (remember Tascam 234?) I've owned the Tascam 80-8, 24 track reel to reel, fostex 8 track digital, ADAT, and recorded on every gear known to man. Recorded in every studio in Dallas and several in Nashville. Not a rookie.

    Anyone remember Brandon Drury at recordingreview? Yeah, followed that guy and he confirmed what I already suspected: gear is over-hyped. Let's start with a great song, sing it well, and play it well and you have something to be proud of. Which kick you select is not a deal breaker. Compressing a bass on the way or out, or using that one plug-in won't matter if the track sucks and the notes don't line up with the kick. Using your nifty Pro-tools to quantize the soul of your recording is just a fricking sin! STOP THAT!

    So, anyone else feel this way or did I post this on the wrong page and I'm a musical heretic?

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    I've still got my Zoom R24, and it works great for recording. But when I get to mixing/editing, nothing beats Reaper on my PC. Clip/snip/paste/tweak. Its SO easy, and I don't get computer crashes.

    Why give up one when you can have 2?

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    Well, I'm still an Akai DPS 12i man. I love it. I'm on the lookout for a couple of units to store away as reserves, just in case my current two decide to take voluntary retirement.
    But, we all utilize what we like. I personally don't see any unit or medium or machine or method as being better than any other. The goal is a song or set of songs that can be listened to and enjoyed. How one gets there is how one gets there regardless of ease or difficulty. What I enjoy in a recording forum is hearing how each person gets there and swapping tales.

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    Yes but, the sd24 is STILL a computer! I have 4 computers that I use for various audio purposes and I and my son have been doing computer audio for over 15 years and the incidence of crashings have been minimal. (this Lenovo T510 goes BSOD about once a month but that is down to some glitch in the machine I think or W10 playing silly buggers as Ms tell me they have to close down and I am back in less than a minute. Only ever done it whilst online)

    The Asus MOBO, AMD 3G 6core Black runs like a train, never a blip. I have a 7yr old HP i3 laptop, have run 20 tracks of Cubase, plays back perfectly. A few years ago I took the HP to the Labour club in town and, with a KA6, recorded the bands. Well over 4 hours continuous recording without a glitch.

    I have a really old W7 tower in my living room that run a printer/scanner but also sends Radio 3 to a hi fi system. I put that on about 6am most mornings and it often does not go off until past 1am (yes, 'I' crash in the chair!) I can flip to the PC at any time in the day and there is R3 clear as a bell. I have recorded it for hours, no problem...But!

    I also have a 42"JVC 'smart' TV and 4 Freeview HDD recorders (all with 'puters in them see?) and I rarely go more than 3 months without having to do a 'hard reset' on one of the devices.

    So, for me, computers are way more reliable than other 'digital' kit!

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    You don't mention what computer you had that crashed right away.
    I don't like Win 10's interface, but overall it does seem reliable. NO more than a couple of crash-reboots in almost 2 years on this computer, and the only issues I have had on my studio recorder is an occasional Reaper crash when I add Nectar to a track.
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    so the new version is the TASCAM DP-24SD....it does look fun, and reminds me of the Porta-Studio world that got me into all this with the 144. Enjoy....

    FWW..Ive got Windows 10 and Reaper, no problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolCat View Post
    so the new version is the TASCAM DP-24SD....it does look fun, and reminds me of the Porta-Studio world that got me into all this with the 144
    That's why I like the Akai. As I've said quite a few times down the years, it's the perfect halfway house for me between portastudio portastudioness and computer/digital advantage.

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    Well I sure appreciate simple....I have been farting around with Reaper for several years but to be honest I maybe have 100 hours of using it....so really a real newb I can get a multi track done on it..I can't remember it ever crashing on the late 2011 imac with an i5 processor and a boat load of Ram.....

    That all said I just enjoy playing a ton more than recording but want recordings of what I do...For me as I sail off into the sunset years of my life me just playing the piano and singing is good enough for me..I totally dig playing with a band and just jammed with my old guitar player and drummer of 40+ years back a few weekends ago..total blast and we kicked ass...but damn to capture / record properly that would have required a few extra hours and a lot less jamming when it is hard for us to get together even once a year,,

    I've been working on how to get a good live recording with just an iphone and it is totally possible...all the band into the mixer with a usb out to the iphone....monitor the mix and push record on your iphone video app.. you have stereo audio and a video of the performance ...back in the olden days a lot of performances were done live with full band...you just have to be on your best game performing...hope to do a bunch of one shot lives of just me doing a boatload of covers soon....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAE View Post
    you just have to be on your best game performing
    That is an understatement and the beauty of live.
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    I agree. I actually have a hybrid setup a pretty eclectic one. I use analog boards, tape of different sizes, digital both stand alone stuff like dp24sd and tascam mx2424, and several daws.

    I get paid to record bands, I use whatever I feel like using at the time unless they request something. I actually have young bands that are recording albums and insisted on going cassette tape start to finish, right now I’m using tascam 238’s I have several 4 tracks I can use but the 238’s sound nice. I enjoy using them, I enjoy rtr, I enjoy all of what I have.

    If one way is better than the others I don’t know which one is the better one. I really dig em all even the daws.
    I think the dp24sd is fast easy and sounds great. Like you I’ve come full circle 2” 16 been there done that. Even though I get paid to do this I’m at a point I insist on having fun and fully enjoy what I’m doing. I don’t care if the bands have fun, only me lol
    I totally get it and have actually carefully selected all the gear I’m using. Sounds like you have too. ;-)
    It’s liberating imho

    You are not alone, there’s a lot of us that not only feel the same but think the same. No right or wrong, just whatever way a person likes to work.

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