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    Quote Originally Posted by Siberiaslim View Post
    I agree. I actually have a hybrid setup a pretty eclectic one. I use analog boards, tape of different sizes, digital both stand alone stuff like dp24sd and tascam mx2424, and several daws.

    I get paid to record bands, I use whatever I feel like using at the time unless they request something. I actually have young bands that are recording albums and insisted on going cassette tape start to finish, right now I’m using tascam 238’s I have several 4 tracks I can use but the 238’s sound nice. I enjoy using them, I enjoy rtr, I enjoy all of what I have.

    If one way is better than the others I don’t know which one is the better one. I really dig em all even the daws.
    I think the dp24sd is fast easy and sounds great. Like you I’ve come full circle 2” 16 been there done that. Even though I get paid to do this I’m at a point I insist on having fun and fully enjoy what I’m doing. I don’t care if the bands have fun, only me lol
    I totally get it and have actually carefully selected all the gear I’m using. Sounds like you have too. ;-)
    It’s liberating imho

    You are not alone, there’s a lot of us that not only feel the same but think the same. No right or wrong, just whatever way a person likes to work.
    Ah, but do you sometimes resort to 'practical' kit? I mean, if a band INSISTS they want it done on cassette do you secretly send a feed to an AI and lappy under the table?

    I would. "Art for Art's sake" "Let's HEAR the fekker for F****s sake!"

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    i was messing with a recording and by the time I was done with my "low skilled mixing"....I saw the pile of plugins on every track, so many plugins I cant even recall what is where and why ....

    and it was mind boggling to me...to think every track was that bad? that I needed so many plugins to sound better?

    and Im not even talking about editing due to playing skills being cobwebs and dusty.
    but this recent experience sure has me wondering about getting a better signal going in...you think?
    maybe a tracking approach that doesnt need 10 plugins on each track....lipstik on the pig as they say?

    the thought of simple EMI..BEatles to Mic > Desk> comps > Tape makes me wonder and they didnt have 80 plugins per song and the recordings sounded pretty decent.

    if it's not happening in the room, it ain't gonna happen on tape.-H.Gerst

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    It depends what those plugins were doing...Stating the obvious.
    If you're stacking several eqs and gates and noise reduction plugins then, sure, there's stuff you can fix before the mic.
    If it's maybe an eq and comp and some time-based effects, distortions/saturation and that kind of thing then I don't see a problem.
    The Beatles may not have had 10 plugins on each track but I'm sure they were passed through hardware eqs, compressors, tape delays, plate reverbs, and who knows what else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecc83 View Post
    Ah, but do you sometimes resort to 'practical' kit? I mean, if a band INSISTS they want it done on cassette do you secretly send a feed to an AI and lappy under the table?

    I would. "Art for Art's sake" "Let's HEAR the fekker for F****s sake!"

    Dave.
    Lol No. No reason to do that. I might bu to hd or another copy of tape on tape but no secret agent stuff lol

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    They may not have had the luxury of "pluggins" back in the day but all I read tells me bands like Beatles, Queen, Floyd spent an INORDINATE amount of fekking around in the studios!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecc83 View Post
    They may not have had the luxury of "pluggins" back in the day but all I read tells me bands like Beatles, Queen, Floyd spent an INORDINATE amount of fekking around in the studios!

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    LOL You got me thinking... I started probably 60 yrs ago experimenting with a mono cassette recorder. Traveled through analog tape and mixers till the work to record got in the way of the urge to just play. Sold everything and went simple with a portistudio. Time passed and the recording bug grew till I wound up building a dedicated recording space fitted with a Roland VS2000 supplemented with a computer based daw and MIDI. Still record occasionally when family matters don't interfere. I've been around long enough to see most formats come and go through so many changes. Never lost interest. That's the best part of a great hobby, always new stuff to soak into the brain tissue.
    As an unusual coincidence, today I was tossing some old stuff out of the garage and found a box of cassettes. One was the only known copy of my original band performing (I was 16). It was recorded off a TV show we performed on. Recorded by my little mono cassette recorder sitting on the coffee table. Bad sound? Not to me! One of the sweetest sounds I've heard in a while. Brings back my youth. Tomorrow I'm dubbing it to CD and sending every one of my band mates a copy. That's what recording is all about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjsmithmusic View Post
    Look, I understand wanting the best gear, but come on, NO ONE on this site will EVER get a record deal from the gear you are using. I chased that unicorn for decades (remember Tascam 234?) I've owned the Tascam 80-8, 24 track reel to reel, fostex 8 track digital, ADAT, and recorded on every gear known to man. Recorded in every studio in Dallas and several in Nashville. Not a rookie.

    Anyone remember Brandon Drury at recordingreview? Yeah, followed that guy and he confirmed what I already suspected: gear is over-hyped. Let's start with a great song, sing it well, and play it well and you have something to be proud of. Which kick you select is not a deal breaker. Compressing a bass on the way or out, or using that one plug-in won't matter if the track sucks and the notes don't line up with the kick. Using your nifty Pro-tools to quantize the soul of your recording is just a fricking sin! STOP THAT!
    I loved the Brandon-ness...the Disappointment Series and sht like that was so hilarious in a sobering way. And he dumped money for awhile $$$$ so it was pretty wild but almost always insanely honest and blindfold tests over and over from the viewers choosing the gear or not hearing a difference sent him on the disappointment path in top end gear.....the Martech vs Rane MS1 with no difference heard and no one online listening in their home studios or earbuds could hear a difference either... etc..etc..

    and his mixes were top notch, he had done his 1000 recordings and wasnt a hobbyist like myself. but the brutal honesty...almost a dream buster that the $2000 mic and $1600 preamp wont make you sound like <enter famous fav artist>

    the best studios in Dallas and Nashville is a interesting comment....were the results much better than the Akai Home Grown weed?

    if it's not happening in the room, it ain't gonna happen on tape.-H.Gerst

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