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    oh man, fans can do funky things with sound. I was house sitting for a friend's dog while they were away. I set up my guitar gear in their cathedral ceiling room. I thought something was wrong with my amp, i kept hearing this weird fluttering sound. So I tried another amp. Same fluttering sound. WTF??? By this point I was getting exasperated and a little heated up, which made me perspire since they didn't have A/C ... but they did have a ceiling fan that basically ran continuously during the warm weather. Nah, it couldn't be, could it? I shut the fan off and the fluttering sound went away.

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    Closets make good bass traps if that helps.

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    I'm torn between using the closet as a bass trap or putting the guitar amps in there (not as an iso booth but to help keep the room clear)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesfordan View Post
    I'm torn between using the closet as a bass trap or putting the guitar amps in there (not as an iso booth but to help keep the room clear)
    I find storage is more important, and if you have shelves with mics and odds and ends, it will be a diffusor and trap - put a heavy drape or moving pad across the opening for absorption and looks if it matters. It won't be as effective as a *bass* trap (because of its location) as putting real ones in the corners, anyway.
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    Two types of bass traps.Either work on particle velocity or pressure.
    Corners are high pressure/minimum particle velocity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith.rogers View Post
    I find storage is more important...
    Yeah...it's not something we like giving up valuable studio space for...but it's always needed.
    If/when I ever get my new studio build going (still jerking around trying to find a local contractor that wants to do it)...no matter what layout I end up with or final studio size...I'm going with a fairly decent storage space, that will be in-line and next to a decent size iso-booth, plus an "attic" space above them...like 5' x 10' each (storage & iso-booth)...and then above them the 5' "attic" space running the combined 20' length, up to the roof.

    I've actually been thinking if I want to seal that "attic" portion solid with the drywalls and final layers...or create some kind of "framed wall" but, inside the space set it up as huge absorbing trap. I mean...5' x 25' across. I would just drop some felt cloth over the "framed wall", but inside have it stuffed with 703 or similar.
    That said...that "attic" space would be 8' up, over the storage and iso-booth...so not sure if having it act as a huge trap is effective up there...but I can't see why it wouldn't be, if my monitors are firing toward that end of the room.

    But the real point was...you definitely need studio storage space. I've got a ton of studio shit that needs to be in storage, and not cluttering up the usable space all the time.

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    storage is one thing I do not have in my current room. The room next to it was my storage area. That closet is looking better all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith.rogers View Post

    Unless there's a ton of noise entering the room from the rest of the house, you can probably leave that corner door open (experiment with how much) for mixing - it's kind of an infinite bass trap at that point. It's what I do, anyway.

    I wouldn't remove the fan unless it's really in the way of installing some cloud treatment, and those don't have to be super thick (IMO).
    In my room, leaving the door open or shut made no difference as measured with a measurement mic at the mix position. The door isn't exactly in the corner, but it's close (24"). Every room is different, and every room will probably yield different results. If it were me, though, I would be happier with a traditional bass trap that was movable and could be placed for mixing and removed for access. I guess I'm just a symmetry freak, though.

    Same on the cloud thickness. My room required 4" cloud panels to knock down a peak at 150hz. The existing 2" panels just didn't work. This is also the advice that the consultant at GIK gave me.

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    I think the closet depends on it's location. Storage is great but not if the closet can be used as a trap or is positioned where you would normally put bass traps. My first goal would be to get the room sounding as best as possible. Then worry about storage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwillis45 View Post
    I think the closet depends on it's location. Storage is great but not if the closet can be used as a trap or is positioned where you would normally put bass traps. My first goal would be to get the room sounding as best as possible. Then worry about storage.
    @bluesfordan didn't give us a blueprint, but it sounded like he had regular corners for 3 bass traps and a door in the 4th. The corners are where the bass accumulates, or whatever it does, so that would be the most effective place for those traps. Sure, moveable if that makes sense, but if you eliminate the corner, nothing is going to build up there.

    I was just talking about the overhead clouds that are for those early reflections during mixing. IMO, those don't have to be too concerned about LF content, but you can put whatever fits. I have a couple of 4" panels hung a few inches away from the (8') ceiling and close to the fan, but I don't mix bass heavy content ever, so my room is Ok for what I do (and I'm not a measurer ).
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