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    I keep looking at the GIK site--mostly because of the model. But I don't see any data on the actual effect of the screen. They say it operates down to 150hz. But I'm unclear what that means in terms of absorption. It's just a two inch panel. So lacking some other kind of structure (like a membrane) how much will it actually absorb? Even a thick moving blanket will absorb that low. Not much but some.
    This is a little odd for GIK because they almost always post independent test results.

    The other thing I can't get past is their insistence on calling it a "booth" and an "isolation" booth at that.
    It limits reflections on the absorption side, but as far as I can see it's not a booth. I also can't imagine that it has significant isolation properties. It will reflect some sound on the back side but that's hardly isolation.

    Maybe I'm barking up the wrong fire hydrant, but this just seems sloppy to me. Especially, for these guys.

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    I take that back. It is a booth if you buy four of them and put a lid on it. That would only cost about $1300. Of course, that is pretty cheap compared to the skyrocketing costs of most top level vocal booths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwillis45 View Post
    I keep looking at the GIK site--mostly because of the model. But I don't see any data on the actual effect of the screen. They say it operates down to 150hz. But I'm unclear what that means in terms of absorption. It's just a two inch panel. So lacking some other kind of structure (like a membrane) how much will it actually absorb? Even a thick moving blanket will absorb that low. Not much but some.
    This is a little odd for GIK because they almost always post independent test results.
    Yeah it seems like the gobos are basically just free standing covered rockwool or equivalent. But since I'm not really looking for isolation, I'm okay with just damping some high frequency ambience. I can always low pass any unwanted bass/sub bass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtoboy View Post
    Yeah it seems like the gobos are basically just free standing covered rockwool or equivalent. But since I'm not really looking for isolation, I'm okay with just damping some high frequency ambience. I can always low pass any unwanted bass/sub bass.
    The free standing bass trap is only free standing if some idiot can sit (or stand) on it with his Les Paul. I think they become chairs in a lot of studios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miroslav View Post
    Yeah, I've been picking up deals the last couple of months. I scored three ADK Custom Shop tube mics for a fraction of their price. They were NOS from a former ADK dealer who was just looking to unload...so I tossed them a price for all three, and they went for it...I don't know if you ever posted any pics of your studio...but I would love to see what you have set up.
    So you have a dedicated control room out of a converted bedroom space, and the big tracking/live room is next to that...?
    So ADK I've looked at a few times and I have heard good things but never heard the mics themselves. I was considering those also, along with the Miktec CV4.Sounds like you got an awesome deal there, I'm totally jelly. Some older pics of my setup @ let me see your studio! post #4425. I have since added the clouds and acoustic foam on the wall behind the monitors. The tracking area consists of one side of the second floor, the other side is two bedrooms, bathroom and stairway to the first floor(which turns out to be excellent for micing ambiance!). You will note that the ceiling to wall is 90 degrees in only a couple of spots so that's cool. And the drums sit under a sort of alcove that projects the sound out and down which makes for better room sound. I have one set a leeetle close to the wall so I am careful where the high hat spot mic is aimed, though there is also acoustic foam on that wall. I know foam aint the best way to go necessarily but it is really only being used for it's intended purpose-reduce high frequency slap and flutter. The room is ~ a "T" shape, IIRC approx. 24 ' on the long axis and 20' on the short(I cant find my tape measure to double check) So you will end up with a slightly larger space, and as happy as I am with mine I am sure you will be with yours. I just got the JBL monitors last year- the LSR8's, and though it's been a learning curve changing from my Tannoy Reveal passive's , I feel like this year I have gotten to the point where I have a pretty good handle on them. Presently I am using an old Yamaha sub with them but I plan to get the LSR310s-it's on my list along with a Paiste 16" Fast crash. I have an old QSC model 1400 running the Klipsch speakers in the main room and they get plenty loud enough for "big speaker" checks(loud enough you can barely hear someone playing the drums when it's turned up!). I work 30 miles from home so I have been having trouble trying get folks out here to record even just for fun, so mostly I am just doing my own stuff right now. Hopefully I will have more time down the road to round up more people to come over and play! Long way from a studio apartment, one guitar and amp, a porta 01 and a fostex mic. Or was it an EV? Well whatever it was less than 100 bucks I guarantee! Truly I haven't put a bunch of effort into getting "clients" yet, as I haven't the time. Too busy working to pay for all this stuff. But good lord I have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwillis45 View Post
    The free standing bass trap is only free standing if some idiot can sit (or stand) on it with his Les Paul. I think they become chairs in a lot of studios.
    You can never have too many chairs. Or was that beers? I forget.
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    Oh yes!
    Now I remember...the Christmas lights around the room.
    Yeah, that's a nice space for sure.

    I didn't quite get what you meant...you work 30 miles form home makes it hard for people to come to the studio..?
    Is this studio in your home, and you mean there just aren't too many musicians close enough to you that you know to have over?

    I'm not in any way doing my studio build for any potential clients (well, I'm the main client )...but when it's done, I will see how it all comes out and consider my options.
    It's one thing having some friends over to cut some tracks...but when it gets to any kind of "biz" level, people have to be careful. I mean, if you just have "paying clients" who are not you friends, but just people paying you to record...all kinds of liability and insurances issues come up, not to mention whatever zoning/business rules your area has.
    I know a lot of home studios walk that line and keep things in the "gray", and nothing really happens...but if something happens, if there is an accident to any client or if there is damage to any gear, or if a neighbor complains, etc...you could have a real headache.
    So, if I were to go "commercial", I would want to sort out the zoning, get the proper approvals, file a DBA, and also get the additional insurance needed.
    I don't know how deep I will go into all that...but I'm sure I will at some point have some musician friends over to record, no different than having some people over for a jam session or any other social/recreational event.

    As a private use studio...my homeowners covers it all. As a biz, it's a different story....and bottom line, I'm not doing this for the money. My studio doesn't depend on me making money off it to cover any studio expenses. Most bigger commercial studios run on heavy loans, because it takes a big investment to outfit a high-end commercial studio.

    Though to tell the truth, the main reason I wouldn't go "commercial" is because I simply don't want anyone coming over just because the would pay.
    There are cool musicians...but man, there are also way too many headaches, people with unrealistic goals, and expecting you to do way more than what they are willing to pay...so it can be a headache long before the insurance/legal issues ever arise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtoboy View Post
    So ADK I've looked at a few times and I have heard good things but never heard the mics themselves. I was considering those also, along with the Miktec CV4.Sounds like you got an awesome deal there, I'm totally jelly. Some older pics of my setup @ let me see your studio! post #4425. I have since added the clouds and acoustic foam on the wall behind the monitors. The tracking area consists of one side of the second floor, the other side is two bedrooms, bathroom and stairway to the first floor(which turns out to be excellent for micing ambiance!). You will note that the ceiling to wall is 90 degrees in only a couple of spots so that's cool. And the drums sit under a sort of alcove that projects the sound out and down which makes for better room sound. I have one set a leeetle close to the wall so I am careful where the high hat spot mic is aimed, though there is also acoustic foam on that wall. I know foam aint the best way to go necessarily but it is really only being used for it's intended purpose-reduce high frequency slap and flutter. The room is ~ a "T" shape, IIRC approx. 24 ' on the long axis and 20' on the short(I cant find my tape measure to double check) So you will end up with a slightly larger space, and as happy as I am with mine I am sure you will be with yours. I just got the JBL monitors last year- the LSR8's, and though it's been a learning curve changing from my Tannoy Reveal passive's , I feel like this year I have gotten to the point where I have a pretty good handle on them. Presently I am using an old Yamaha sub with them but I plan to get the LSR310s-it's on my list along with a Paiste 16" Fast crash. I have an old QSC model 1400 running the Klipsch speakers in the main room and they get plenty loud enough for "big speaker" checks(loud enough you can barely hear someone playing the drums when it's turned up!). I work 30 miles from home so I have been having trouble trying get folks out here to record even just for fun, so mostly I am just doing my own stuff right now. Hopefully I will have more time down the road to round up more people to come over and play! Long way from a studio apartment, one guitar and amp, a porta 01 and a fostex mic. Or was it an EV? Well whatever it was less than 100 bucks I guarantee! Truly I haven't put a bunch of effort into getting "clients" yet, as I haven't the time. Too busy working to pay for all this stuff. But good lord I have fun!

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    You can never have too many chairs. Or was that beers? I forget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggaluggs View Post
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    I find that the length of the paragraph is directly proportional to age and a general distain for social media and texting. The older you get, the longer your paragraphs become. At some point, you just can't hit the return key twice to break things up. So everything becomes like a Jack Kerouac novel. Eventually, you get so old that you give up on punctuation altogether. I'm almost there. In five years, I will receive Social Security and the colon keys will be removed from my computer keyboard. Then they will come for my colon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggaluggs View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwillis45 View Post
    I find that the length of the paragraph is directly proportional to age and a general distain for social media and texting. The older you get, the longer your paragraphs become. At some point, you just can't hit the return key twice to break things up. So everything becomes like a Jack Kerouac novel. Eventually, you get so old that you give up on punctuation altogether. I'm almost there. In five years, I will receive Social Security and the colon keys will be removed from my computer keyboard. Then they will come for my colon.
    It was good enough for James Joyce.
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