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    Quote Originally Posted by DM60 View Post
    I am a lyrics matters guy. If my words aren't saying something, then for me I have no reason to make the song.
    See, I don't think that way at all. The point for me is to make a catchy melody that gets stuck in someone's head. I don't care if they like the lyrics, or understand them, or put any other meaning into them - if I hear someone humming my melodies, I consider it job well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miroslav View Post
    Translating that to accessible lyrics so that the audience can empathize with you, is the hard part.
    This is certainly true.
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    This is a simple 3-chord rock ditty which began when "Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress" by The Hollies got stuck in my head.
    All I could hear over and over was "Long Cool Woman.." and my mind morphed it into "Long tall woman..". I have no idea where the
    rest of the lyrics came from, they just popped into my head - took about 10 minutes to write the whole song.

    Now I'm not prone to suicidal thoughts, but that's what this song turned out to be - a guy and a gal intent on ending it all by
    taking a long walk off a short pier. They just happen to meet as they were doing this at the same place and time of night.

    I've attached a rough version I recorded some time ago. There is very little processing, just a quick recording full of terrible
    esses, pops, and clicks.

    Dropbox - 10 Short Ocean Pier.mp3


    She was a long tall woman walkin' down a short ocean pier
    We got to talkin' 'bout some things that brought us here
    Our stories were mostly the same
    Different places, times, different names
    All conspired to drive us insane on this short ocean pier

    [Lead Break]

    A long talk just seemed to impede
    That long walk we both thought we needed
    All at once it was so crystal clear on that short ocean pier
    On that short ocean pier
    On that short ocean pier
    On that short ocean pier

    [Fade] ..splash.. splash
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    I've just been thinking about "Green Green Grass of Home" by Tom Jones, a song I consider to be a masterpiece. I start to wonder if the thing was penned by human hands! Looking at it, the genius is not in idiom or mystique -- the words are cut and dried -- but in the drama. It uses a phenomenon many of us have experienced (the vivid dream) to describe, extremely starkly, something none of us have experienced (final night on death row). In a vicious twist, it turns the dream on its head and reveals its hidden meaning.

    Vocally, Tom Jones nails it. He captures the surreal mood. And every thing, every line, fits. The vividness of the dream is in the colours ("green, green, grass", "lips like cherries", "hair of gold") -- all the exaggerated tones of a vivid dream. The scenery jumps around, just as in a dream mimicking the whims and emotions of the dreamer! Genius! Any disconnectedness of the lyrics is swallowed up right there. Then the coup de grace! The song itself has an open meaning, but describes something with a hidden meaning.

    How was that written!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kickingtone View Post
    I've just been thinking about "Green Green Grass of Home" by Tom Jones, a song I consider to be a masterpiece.
    Doesn't hold a candle to "What's New Pussycat".

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    Quote Originally Posted by miroslav View Post
    AFA instrumentals...they are, IMO, so much more easier to deal with. 1.) You don't have to come up with lyrics, and 2.) you don't have to mix around a lead vocal. So there's way more freedom to do things and not have a need for them to make sense, to mean something...or to figure out technically how to make them all work in the mix. Without lyrics and vocals, the instruments all become somewhat free to "move"...and there's many ways you can go when you don't have that central vocal w/lyrics to work everything else around. There's less worry about the instruments fighting the vocals and allowing the lyrics to be understood.
    You are so right about the instrumental, I think that is why I do it to get relief from the song writing part. But still, to me anyway, I need to feel like, I am still telling a story musically, I just don't have to struggle with the words, just the notes. And that does some easier.

    As far as mixing an instrumental, I 100% agree it seems it is so much easier since the vocals don't get in the way.
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    I still say, good lyrics go a long way.
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    I'm working on a song right now where I will do both an instrumental version and one with vocals.
    Never tried this before with the same song...but this one has possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miroslav View Post
    Doesn't hold a candle to "What's New Pussycat".
    Wonders will never cease!

    I didn't know much about this, until I googled it. Now I wish I hadn't.

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    So....

    Lyrics don't have to rhyme.

    Loose rhyming is better. It's more about compatible sounds.

    Too much rhyming ruins the lyrics.

    I hate rap.

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