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Thread: How do you come up w/that initial idea/set of lyrics/melody/etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroKen_H View Post
    I work for Walmart in the south...there should be some funny songs in there somewhere !!!
    Off the top of my head... https://homerecording.com/bbs/genera...l-crap-310580/

    (Or if you prefer something that isn't a 6-year-old thread linking to a suspended mp3 account: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wal-Mart-At.../dp/B00B529FOE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by VomitHatSteve View Post
    Off the top of my head... https://homerecording.com/bbs/genera...l-crap-310580/

    (Or if you prefer something that isn't a 6-year-old thread linking to a suspended mp3 account: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wal-Mart-At.../dp/B00B529FOE)
    Lol. What a great song!

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    I have lyrical ideas and I have musical ideas and I just try to hammer the fuckers together without hitting myself on the thumb.

    When I was in an acoustic band I'd just start with an acoustic guitar and both things came together pretty easily. These days I'm doing electric rock stuff and I write and record entire songs of music without clue one as to what the lyrics or melody will be and then deal with that at the end.

    I do take notes of things that sound nifty that other people say, that I can change or paraphrase or morph into a lyric, but I've noticed when people comment on my lyrics in the Clinic it's usually for a line I've made up myself, so perhaps I'm smarter than I think I am.

    Plus, I have a direct line to god, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroKen_H View Post
    I've always considered myself an observer of the human condition...
    Except you never write anything else but devotional music. Much of human experience lies outside that framework. And if it lies within that framework then it's often stifled and the cause of great personal anguish.
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    Always starts by jamming out a guitar riff or bass line, usually to a drum loop. Then if it began with guitar, I'll add bass. If bass, I'll add guitar. Maybe add a keyboard part. Somewhere along the line I'll have written out the chord progression. Then I'll loop the whole thing and play it back repeatedly while trying out vocal melody ideas, singing inspired things like "oooh, oooh, oooh," or "yadda, yadda, yaah!" In short, making a total fool of myself. So I do it late at night when I'm the only one awake. If I'm liking the melody, I'll keep going with it. If not, it joins a million never-to-be finished song fragments on my hard drive. If I keep going, I'll decide whether this part is a verse, chorus, bridge, etc., and try to create other parts that go with it by the same process.

    Somewhere along the line, those "oooh, oooh, ooohs" will have become words and phrases, which will trigger associations in my mind leading to other words phrases. If not, I'll abandon it and come back later--maybe months later. Or maybe never. As I begin to work on lyrics seriously, I'll spend some time asking myself what this song is actually going to be about--who is speaking, to whom, about what? I'm really not sure how or why the lyrics come, when they come. Lyrics are by far the hardest part of the process.

    One thing I have forced myself to stop doing is layering on more and more instrumental tracks, tracking and retracking, on a song that lacks vocal melody and lyrics. I used to waste a lot of time that way. I'll draw a line and tell myself: "I'm not doing another damn thing with this until I have a vocal." If I'm making progress on melody and lyrics, it's potentially a song. I'll keep working on it. Otherwise, it's an unproductive waste of my time. I'll move on to something else.

    From start to finish, a new song tends to take me two or three weeks, but sometimes much longer. I'm usually working on three or four new songs at any given time. I'll rotate between them depending on what is exciting me at the moment. When I start to see the light at the end of the tunnel on one of them, it will get my undivided attention until it is finished.

    I need to set aside a few hours every week to jam and record the results in order to keep the queue of potential song ideas full. That's my process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armistice View Post
    I write and record entire songs of music without clue one as to what the lyrics or melody will be and then deal with that at the end.
    Funny, I'm just the opposite. Maybe if we hooked up we'd have a ton of albums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robus View Post
    Lyrics are by far the hardest part of the process.
    And again!

    Lyrics are far easier for me than the music.

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    It usually starts as a short melody with a few words for me, and if I can imagine the other parts of the song (chorus/bridge/verse) I try to play it on acoustic. Once the words and chord changes are down the rest is gravy in comparison. It's that melody and progression that are the hardest to nail down.

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    I write the lyrics only after I write the melody. Not just any word can go anywhere in any melody. I sing gibberish lyrics to my melody then later I write in words if they would sound cool. For the melody, I imagine one then play it on piano to my instrumental track. Or else I just go to my piano to play it then co e up with a melody completely there. If it sou D's cool, I will sing it with gibberish, then later add words after I listen to it for a while. Then I practice my melody a lot then record it several times until the pitches are mostly correct, Then I autotune it a bit then practice singing the autotuned melody then re-record. In verses, I try to avoid dining the tonic note, but I use the tonic note at the ends of melodies in my choruses. Listen to my song and then tell me what you learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easlern View Post
    It usually starts as a short melody with a few words for me, and if I can imagine the other parts of the song (chorus/bridge/verse) I try to play it on acoustic. Once the words and chord changes are down the rest is gravy in comparison. It's that melody and progression that are the hardest to nail down.
    ^^^^ This. Once the initial lines are drawn, everything else just kind of falls in place. I get surprised sometimes by a hook or a bridge that I didn't expect to pop out of a song I write this way. Bonus.
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