The Magix recording studio

rufiochris182

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does anyone know how to use it and make a good sound with Drums, bass, guitar and vocalas, can some one tell me whateverything in the studio is for and how to use it?
 
i use it

tell me what you want to do, and i'll try and help.
do you mean magix music studio 7 ? is that what you have.
there are so many functions in magix for the pro and semi pro alike it will take more than a few posts. in the interim tell me
have you familiarised yourself with the basics yet like the template and setting up track parameters yet ? have you done test recordings ? also what type of soundcard ?
 
yeah i have the magix music studio, do u have yahoo or aim so we can talk, if so IM me guitaristlookingforaband thats my yahoo sn, my aim is rufiochris581
 
dont use chat etc

just post a list of q's here, you can use notepad and then just paste in here on the bbs. i'll answer you.
in the interim - heres some tips....how i work
1. two drives eg : C for windows and the magix pgm.
2. second drive eg : D for multitrack projects.
before you start a song , create a new folder on this second drive
eg : chrisfirstsong. THEN in studio open the magix template and configure it for 24 tracks. note up in the top menu bar you can add tracks to the template. i suggest 18 mono tracks and 6 stereo.
this is what i do. you configure tracks by clicking on the track number. THEN do a SAVE to the chrisfirstsong folder, save template as chrisfirstsong and you'll see the name on the blue bar at the top change to chrisfirstsong. now set up a keyboard shortcut for record. so now to record a track just click on the REC of a track to arm it , and press your kbd shortcut on the PC keyboard. and recording will commence. it will be saved in
the chrisfirstsong folder under the song name.
this isbut a start. note the mixer is highly automated with each channel. you can right click over any knob to configure on a channel strip the eq or compressor or fx.
peace
 
i think i just have a reguar sound card, with one mic input, ummm on this Magix studio program can i record perfect drum sounds on it, if so how do i do it, also when i record the drums i use 4 mics and the mics go thru a little 4ch mixer and a line out to my sound card, if u know anything about the drums of making them have a bad ass drum sound plz tell me, like what effects to use on the magix program, thanks
 
drum sounds

magix wont make a poorly engineered drum set sound better.
you could tart it up a bit. tell me what mirophones you have ??
to record drums in stereo you will need to make sure the track you are recording to is a stereo track. this is easy to tell.
one wave form is mono. a waveform on top of another in the same track is a stereo recording. a good drum sound will depend on several factors.
1. the sound quality of individual drums and their tuning
2. the room your recording in.
3. carefull mic positioning.
in summary no recording program will make a poor sounding
drum kit sound good. you can of course try tweaking with eq
etc. you might consider laying down a click track first and playing to that while a friend listens on the monitors for quality.
ideally for drums you might consider a seperate drum room
especially for drums seperate from a control room.
if you cant do that , you might consider if your a home studio
using pads to trigger drum sounds in a drum brain or sampler.
 
alright, ummm this sucks lol, i have 4 drum mics that cost 100 bucks at guitar center, i dunno how to record the drums on a stero track, can u tell me on the magix where to find the stero chs, tell me some steps or something, also whats the stero enhancer for? thanx
 
stereo tracks

click on the audio studio track number on the left of the display.
you will notice properties come up like stereo left and right etc.
click on stereo and OK. in the recording dialog make sure you tick the box that says playback while recording. read carefully through the help files. lots to learn. the enhancer in the mixer is a blue line. i wouldnt worry about it at this stage. it gives a spaciousness to the sound. lets get you recording a track first off.
one step at a time.
please tell me what brand of mics you bought ?
 
ill tell u the drum mic names later, because its out in my sound proof room and im to lazy lol im not a drumer actully, im a guitaist, do u have any mp3s of your stuff on the magix studio i can listen to?
 
here goes

my mp3's. see if you can tell which used big studios, which used small, which used my diy preamps, which used expensive mics and pre's and which used magix.
soundclick.com/bmanning
if you want to listen to solid studio drummers. listen to
missile, take my love(parental discretion advised),and there are many others. one of my personal favorites is a country song called "pretty girls and fancy cars". someone else here on the forum told me he liked "Hide me". over 50 songs on there.
i use audio studioo now instead of 2 inch machines.
several songs have been in the top 5 in their genre like the wrecker and H lady and hi tech man.
note: audio studio will not write a better song for us.
i use it just as a big tape recorder. certainly cheaper than buying
a stephens which i should say were superb multitracks.
 
Nice songs Dude, http://bellerophonmusic.tripod.com on the first page of my site u can hear my bands song, its kinnda carppy, but just tell me what i should do to fix it, all the equipment i have is... peace Drum set, ummm some okay drum mics(i still havent looked yet) a 4 ch mixer lining out to a reguar sound card recording on to Magix, esp guitar, fender stage 100, useing a reguar vocal mic to recor the guitar, the singing is the same vocal mic going into the 4 ch mixer into the computer, everything was recored all at once. please listen and tell me what should be need, thanks
 
wheres the mp3 to download ?

i need an mp3 to download and analyse for engineering suggestions. rufio. only 1second played then stopped.
on soundclick you can set up free mp3's to download.
it would really help to know what your mixer, soundcard and mics are so i can make minimal cost suggestions.
 
alright ill go out and find out all the mic names in stuff and a bit, im kinnda on a low budget becauyse im 18 and i dont have a job lo also ill tell u all the equipment i have and u can tell me the best thing to do to have a great sound, ill post it on my next post all the info ttyl thanks

~Chris~
 
heres what i'd do.

read my article on monitoring. first.
use your behringer for sending output of the sound card to your monitoring.
a decent pair to start would be yorkies with a power amp or home hi fi receiver.
get a new mixer like a 100 dollar yamaha mg for renting and trying out before you buy and see if the pre's are the quality you want. or invest in a dmp3 or vtb1 preamp or even try out
the new behringer ub pre's which some say are better than mx.
by a mile some say.
the SOUND CARD is the most important imho.
try an audiophile 2496.
but make sure the audiophile is compatible with your chipset.
i need to know model numbers of teknika mics to help you further.
 
FOR RUFIO - NOW !!

DRUMS, BASS,GUITAR AND VOCALS - summary for rufio.
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the basics. eg : a simple ROCK song.
1. put a click track down as track 1 in magix MONO.
make sure its the tempo you want your song to be in.
you can use a drum machine as a click track into the sound card.
this will make you keep in time when you come to play the drums.
if the song is 3 minutes, lay say 3 minutes and 15 seconds down,
to give you some lead in 1234 beat or for another studio musician you
might bring in later or the record company might bring in if they
decide to re-engineer your song. ie: add leeway.
2. write out all your songs lyrics, and changes
and the KEY of the song. now put a reference tone down on track two.
so if the song is in the key of E , record a E tone from a synth.
this will also enable you to tune your guitar to your tracks.
then record as track 3 your first rough rhythm guitar. using the click
as a guide. so now you have the click track plus a rough guide
rh guitar track. now play your drums to the click and rough
rh guitar track but only do a minute of recording.
ask yourself are the drums IN TUNE to the rhythm guitar. if not.
TUNE THE DRUMS around say the key of the song - in this case E,
and the guitar track. this is also the time to try different mic positions
on the drums doing test recordings to hear which sounds best with diffrent
mics and distances till you hear a "sweet spot".
3. now record for good your drum track to the click and guitar tracks playing.
but dont flail everywhere. keep THIS drum track SIMPLE and TIGHT.
Hi hat, snare and kick only. now do a second drum track.
maybe adding some subtle hits to complement the first track.
BUT NO CYMBALS OR TOMS. you do this after having developed the song further.
if you feel the urge to add some complimentary latin percussion,
do it as a test only.
4. now add a first vocal track. NOTE : at each stage of this process
if you have a poor consumer sound card, use a product like cool edit 96
on your tracks to do clever track cleaning/noise reduction.
and generally cleaning up your tracks with clever fade outs and ins,
and for example silencing on a track when no voice is singing etc.
5. at this point you have a very basic bed track. now add a bass
track using a direct box or something like a rockman if you have one.
then add another track very low down, a bass from a synth complementing the bass track.
now we start the serious stuff. be brutal. is it starting to kick
booty or is the playing sloppy. if so re-do. try a bass amp as well.
some basses even sound good through guitar amps - an old trick.
more controlled and less boomy. experiment with subtle compression
settings of attack and release.
6. now lets start on the rhythm guitars proper. record one and pan it to the left of the stereo image on
playback using the track pan button in magix. record another but slightly
different and complementing the first, but pan right.
put the first rough rh guitar guide way down in level in the centre.
now we get to where the rubber hits the road. several takes should be tried re-doing
the left and right panned guitar tracks and seeing if they can be
improved by different micing techniques on the amp and positions.
closer maybe ? further back ? just peeking round the corner of the amp ?
amp full bore but micing the room ? seeing the effect of micing two amps ?
or using a guitar effects pedal ? this is where the engineering creativity comes in.
maybe using a magix fx to tart up a track etc etc. for thickness maybe copying the
track and just inching it forward a few millisecs or putting effect on the copy only.
lots of possibilities. including eq/comp/fx/guitar pedals etc.
at this point we have a basic bed track with guitars left and right,
bass plus a reinforcing bass from a synth about centre or just off centre,
and our drums say from about 10 to 2 oclock. or on some older type songs
right centre. it depends what the song calls for.
7. onto the lead vocals. suggest you try doubled lead vocals.
ie: sing the track twice. the little nuances give it an edge.
pan lead vox about centre. if they need thickening. use the usual
tricks of copying the track and advancing the copy a few millisecs,
and or putting ech/rvb TINY AMOUNTS on the duped track and blend with original.
eq to taste. remember to clean up all your tracks and noise reduce if using
a cheap sound card. when applying fx like rvb there is a golden rule
in audio engineering. the quicker the tempo use shorter rvb/echo times.
another golden rule. USE ONE EFFECT AT ONE TIME. dont wash out the mix.
ie: when the lead guitar is playing, you put the effect on IT,
not everything else. if you need an effect that is. be aware
of your potential listener, and dont confuse the listener with lots
of fx all happening at once.
8. now do your lead guitar. if its a typical rock song , you want a strong
lead guitar lick in the introduction, a nice lead or two in the middle,
and on the outtro. same deal. try doubling the track tricks/duping.
experimenting with mic positioning. one trick i use is to mic a
regular amp for one lead track, then on the second play the same lead through
a guitar processor. you can get as balsy as you want this way.
you can try different panning tricks with leads. centre or double
leads hitting the listener from left and right. or a dry lead centre with an effect on one or other
side or do timed pans of leads. my song "woohoo" uses a timed pan lead going
from one speaker to another and back to centre. another trick with
lead guitar is to do another track but an octave, or a third or fifth
higher or lower than the original. takes quite a skill to pull off.
you hear it on a lot of hit records. other tricks include playing other
instruments with the lead guitar like an organ low down mimicking the phrasing,
or say a synth or complementary electric twelve string.
9. so at this stage the songs pretty complete. except now find the holes
in the song where you might put some nice cymbal crashes and tom rolls,
and maybe some latin percussion to complement the song. maybe you
have a pad triggering a nice sampler crash cymbal or some other
interesting special effect like an industrial sound or a bird cheep or whatever.
this is the time now to record that special effect you've found.
10. if you now need back up vocals. this is the point where one gets
the lady singers in to do the backups and record them. maybe in two passes in different octaves/harmonies
if thats what the song needs.
at this stage normally the producer will once again ask the question ?
is it sounding good ? does this song grab the listener ?
if not try some more/different instrument tracks, and rebuild the song.

I'll cover mixing and mixdown another day if you wish more of my blabbering and
tricks.

rufio - this is but a very basic summary introduction to the work that goes into a basic song to give you
some ideas on how to build your own song work procedure.
if you have questions - just ask !
THE BIGGEST ADVICE I CAN PASS ON TO YOU is when i started,
a senior engineer told me...
1. USE YOUR EARS
2. YOUR A PAINTER. PAINT A PLEASING SOUND.
although i try , i often fail miserably. but occassionally a piece
of magic occurs. its all part of THE GIG.
peace, and happy new year.
 
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