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    I've been testing out the new studio space and the new amps. This is an old song that I've been wanting to finish for a long time, so I started from scratch a couple of nights ago. It's an over-stuffed vanity project, but I figured that I'd throw it up here to get some input before I get much further on it. I don't do 5+ minute songs very often, but this was from around 2005, when I was freshly in love with OK Computer, Lonesome Crowded West, and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

    The vocals and bass are still works in progress. But let me know if anything sticks out to you and I'll see if I can address it. Thanks!

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/...iverse-002.mp3

    Updated mix 1/10/2015:
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/...iverse-004.mp3

    And lyrics if you care:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/...cin/Lyrics.txt
    Last edited by Tadpui; 01-10-2015 at 17:31.

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    This reminds me a lot of Wolfmother. I really like it. I'm not listening on anything optimal to critique the mix. But the song is great!
    "Nahhhhhhhhhhhh mannnnnnnnnnn. I ain't touching that mic. That thing's expensive."

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    1.37 bv's pitchy. There are others pitchy spots as well. Aside from that, I like it.
    Like is like still like the worst.

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    Wolfmother - now there was a short lived revival of 70s hard rock.
    You've something def. worth building on. I personally feel that the vox are too loud - but that's just me.

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    I think the vocals are just a hair out as well. Very subtle, seems like they should sit just a bit more in the mix.

    A little bump EQ between 5-12K (I can't say exactly, but somewhere around that range) to give it a little brightness. But that is more of a taste comment.

    Pretty cool tones, and sounds going on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowsofFritz View Post
    This reminds me a lot of Wolfmother. I really like it. I'm not listening on anything optimal to critique the mix. But the song is great!
    Thanks man. I've heard Wolfmother a time or two, they were on the late night talk show circuit a few years ago. I remember liking their guitar tones, and they had loads of it!

    Quote Originally Posted by dobro View Post
    1.37 bv's pitchy. There are others pitchy spots as well. Aside from that, I like it.
    Thanks dobro. I'll be retracking the vocals tonight, hopefully I can get them more presentable by the end of the weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by rayc View Post
    Wolfmother - now there was a short lived revival of 70s hard rock.
    You've something def. worth building on. I personally feel that the vox are too loud - but that's just me.
    Quote Originally Posted by DM60 View Post
    I think the vocals are just a hair out as well. Very subtle, seems like they should sit just a bit more in the mix.

    A little bump EQ between 5-12K (I can't say exactly, but somewhere around that range) to give it a little brightness. But that is more of a taste comment.
    Pretty cool tones, and sounds going on there.
    Thanks Ray & DM. My wife always complains that she can't hear the vocals in everything we listen to (she likes the classics and showtunes, with big loud vocalists right out front). I keep telling her that's just the way a lot of music is nowadays...the voice is just another instrument in the mix. She scoffs. So I bumped up the vocals for her sake, and I agree that they're too loud. So I gave her a little "I told ya so" after reading these comments

    Plus they're MY vocals, so they need to be set back more

    I'll have another mix up in the next 24 hours. Thanks for the listens and suggestions everybody.

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    I thought the guitars and lead vocal sound terrific.

    I'm also catching some pitchiness in the BGV's in several spots. Not sure about dobro's 1:37 time marker. Did you mean 2:37? There wasn't any vocal at 1:37.

    The bass is kind of tubby/muddy/loud.

    Those power guitars at 1:39 are killer. Really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleM View Post
    I thought the guitars and lead vocal sound terrific.

    I'm also catching some pitchiness in the BGV's in several spots. Not sure about dobro's 1:37 time marker. Did you mean 2:37? There wasn't any vocal at 1:37.

    The bass is kind of tubby/muddy/loud.

    Those power guitars at 1:39 are killer. Really good.
    I STILL have yet to find a good bass tone. I've tried so many things. I've tried direct out of the bass amp, I mic'd my little bass amp, I split the signal and used an SM81 to capture the mids/highs and sent another signal direct. Couldn't get a good blend. Tried the Behringer bass DI, tried direct into my RNP. Finally I settled on passive mode (it's an active bass) and plugged direct into one of the preamps on my RME. It's the best that it's sounded so far, but still not stellar. I even put a low shelf EQ on this one, about -3 dB below 300Hz to try and bring the tubby low-mids and boomy lows in check. Any other suggestions? I think this bass just isn't for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadpui View Post
    I STILL have yet to find a good bass tone. I've tried so many things. I've tried direct out of the bass amp, I mic'd my little bass amp, I split the signal and used an SM81 to capture the mids/highs and sent another signal direct. Couldn't get a good blend. Tried the Behringer bass DI, tried direct into my RNP. Finally I settled on passive mode (it's an active bass) and plugged direct into one of the preamps on my RME. It's the best that it's sounded so far, but still not stellar. I even put a low shelf EQ on this one, about -3 dB below 300Hz to try and bring the tubby low-mids and boomy lows in check. Any other suggestions? I think this bass just isn't for me...
    I haven't been able to listen to the song yet (I will soon tonight), but in general, there is a huge difference between a "good bass tone" when you're playing the bass, and "good bass tone" in a mix. Typically when you solo the bass is a great mix, it sounds like crap. That's because that great bass tone you're trying to get from your amp, from DI, from pedals, is not going to 'sit' in a mix. Once you've recorded the bass tone that you think is right for the song you need to start carving out the frequencies with a good EQ. No cut is too drastic when it comes to EQing bass in a mix. There's no point listening to the bass in solo while mixing. Just some thoughts for you!

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    I'm not listening through high-quality speakers, so take mix comments for what they're worth:

    Great voice in the lead vocal. I'm starting to come around to what seems to be a general feeling about here... that great voice or not, vocals can be too dry (if "dry" means natural-sounding). Maybe a little more reverb, delay, or something on the lead might be good. Or leave them alone... as I type this and hear more of the song, I'm starting to think they're fine.

    Other than that, I'd say a slightly louder kick drum would be good, maybe a slightly louder bass. Sounds really good, though. This is a good song.

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