Time Signature Frenzy

**rushfan33** · 07-14-2002

Well...this is my band from a while back. You kind of have to listen to the whole thing to appreciate it.

Enjoy...and if anyone can figure out the time signatures we were in....can you let me know?

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/...d=1645&alid=-1

RF

PS...it's called "Drastic Measures"

**Stratomaster** · 07-14-2002

Most impressive! Sounds like you had the rare band that had talent at every position. Blazing guitar sheesh-nice sweep picking action. Cool change of gears around 3:20. I can't even imagine coming up with something like this much less getting a whole band to learn it. The recording was pretty good too-my only complaint was the bass-it was a little high-endy-but no biggie-Thanks for the tune-

Strat

**jjtcorsair** · 07-14-2002

Whoa, it would take me a fair amount of listens to analyze the time changes. I know you're in 4/4 a lot of the time

Odd time signatures, especially with anticipations are hard to figure out. I'ts funny, I have a tune called "Desperate Measures" that changes time a lot, although not like this.

BTW, I kind of like the trebbly bass- reminds me of Chris Squire.

Jon

**Lt. Bob** · 07-15-2002

Pretty damned cool. I'll have to listen again tomorrow when I'm not falling asleep but this is serious stuff.

**rushfan33** · 07-15-2002

Thanks for your time. This song was deinitely a doozy to record. The part where the guitar is starting to layer after every pass is in 17/8 but the mid section is what I never actually sat down to figure out. My favorite part to play is the samba ride pattern over the double bass drums. That's a weird beat to play. Fun though!
Thanks again,
RF

**Wireneck** · 07-15-2002

This is definantly a stand out track. Major talent in all areas, Im sure you know this. I might have missed this but which instrument did you play in the group? What bands were or are your influences?

**Wireneck** · 07-15-2002

I forgot to ask what type of gear you used to record this? Mics, board, recorder? etc....I would like to hear a little more kick in the mix, but it sounds pretty dang good.

**rushfan33** · 07-15-2002

Thanks Wireneck!
I'm the drummer on that song. It was recorded at Prairie Sun Studios in Cotati Ca. I can't remember off hand what all the gear was but I do remember a bunch of 57s on the toms, 81s for the overheads and I believe I had RE20s on the bass drums. All the rooms were big and live! the song was actually recorded live and in one pass accept for all the obvious guitar overdubs. the keys went direct as well as the bass. The media was 2" 24 track.
I have a lot of gripes about the mix also.... I totally agree about the bass drums! They should be pumpin! Though the bass cuts through, I think it needs some bottom punch!
Our big influence at the time was Racer-X. We were sooooo close to getting signed by Shrapnel Records. The music scene started to turn fast and the deal fell through.
Oh well.... it was fun making the CD.

**Wireneck** · 07-16-2002

Do you have anymore tracks that sound like Drastic Measures? Blazing guitars and Complicated time signatures did go out quickly but I still appreciate and enjoy this type of music. Alot of Swedish metal bands that I listen to were heavily influenced by this type of stuff so maybe thats why I still enjoy it. I think the day will come when people get off the whole "I tune my guitar strings down untill they fall off" tangent and learn to play their instruments again. Maybe? haha

**B.SABBATH** · 07-16-2002

Originally posted by Wireneck
I think the day will come when people get off the whole "I tune my guitar strings down untill they fall off" tangent and learn to play their instruments again. Maybe? haha

I tune my guitar strings down until they fall off..

do you think I could learn?

sam