Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: testing testing 1 2........ separation?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Maidenhead, England
    Posts
    163
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    18

    testing testing 1 2........ separation?

    Sign in to disable this ad
    Hi all. I'm ill, have the flu. I'm off work and feelin all sorry for myself so I improvised a horrible tune Then I decided I may as well make use of it and experiment on stuff. Todays experiment was to try and eq 3 distorted guitars that were recorded with the same geetar in the same way so that they were nicely separated in the mix. And also to fiddle about with depth using reverb and eq. I'm not very experienced at such stuff and I always find it really hard to track/mix more than 1 distorted geetar. I think it came out reasonably ok but I don't really know what i'm doing. So if you were mixing this, short of rerecording the parts, how would you get em separated? What frequencies do you think clash etc? I'm not too fussed if its too bassy or trebbley overall n whatnot as I did it in me cans and it's not really important in this instance. (or is it?)

    still learnin,

    Ian..........

    www.theresidents.net/separation.mp3

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    1,319
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    26427
    Hi Ian,

    Good job - sounds really well done, clear and defined - particularly for the mix being done with headphones.

    I think the first two guitars which are most prominent sound really good - distinct, clear and obviously inhabiting two different EQ ranges.

    The third guitar maybe had a little too much reverb on it, while it does push it to the back, it did take something away from the harmomic attack of this track. Maybe try increasing the pre-delay on the reverb to make it more apparent.

    Get better soon!

    Q.
    <insert something witty here>

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    279
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    25392
    I thought it sounded good...didn't like the snare though

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Maidenhead, England
    Posts
    163
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    18
    Thanks guys,

    Querty, I didn't know predelay had that effect. I learned somethin already Thanks I'll try that.

    Cheers,

    Ian........

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    1,319
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    26427
    Ian -

    The pre-delay I was referring to is a function on your reverb.

    It specifies a number of milliseconds for you to hear the "un-reverbed" sound, prior to the reverb wave hitting you. This is meant to reproduce nature - you hear the sound source first then you hear the verb'ed bounce from whatever walls and surfaces are near you.

    Q.
    <insert something witty here>

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Back in Kansas Toto
    Age
    53
    Posts
    517
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    14516
    I think it sounds great....Very deep sounding. The layers are very clear sounding. yeah, i like it.
    Jason

  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    1,041
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    18
    Sounds good. Drums sound great. How was everything recorded?
    People these days wont take responsiblity for anything, but don't quote me on that.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Maidenhead, England
    Posts
    163
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    18

    Thumbs up

    Thanks guys,

    Querty, I've never really played about with predelay, but I'll give it a go. Thanks for the tip.

    JasonBird, cheers mate.

    CanopuS, The drums are a loop from www.drumdrops.com with a touch of verb and a high pass. I chopped em a bit too. The guitar is my 62 tele ri recorded direct through a meek mq3 on all 3 tracks with simulanalogue's jcm 900 emulation plug on em all. The eq on everything was Cambridge from a uad-1. Reverb is dreamverb. psp Vintage warmer on the output.

    I guess did the separation thing ok on this one, but it's a fluke if I did. I suppose what I wanna know is how you work out the numbers. I read about peeps sayin "cut this at 248.713hz" but I have no idea how instruments interact frequency wize above about 350hz. I just tend to sweep the eq till it sounds ok. That doesn't really help in the tracking stage though. Do ya reckon that's just something that comes with listening and time, or can you learn it? I've read those "magic frequency" type charts but in real life they are often off the mark.

    Cheers,

    Ian.......

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    1,319
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    26427
    Originally posted by IanW-UK
    I just tend to sweep the eq till it sounds ok. That doesn't really help in the tracking stage though. Do ya reckon that's just something that comes with listening and time, or can you learn it? I've read those "magic frequency" type charts but in real life they are often off the mark.

    Cheers,

    Ian.......
    I think you hit the nail on the head - play with it - sweeping the EQ's will give you far better results than any magic number that someone will post.

    Q.
    <insert something witty here>

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Maidenhead, England
    Posts
    163
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    18
    I guess you're right but for tracking it would be handy to know what frequencies things were in so you could plan ahead. Ya know? It's all hit n hope with me

    Cheers,

    Ian.........

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •