"Take it All" - final mix?

GONZO-X

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(updated 10-21-07)
streaming:
http://********.com/songs.aspx?SongID=47722&ArtistID=30211
or
http://tinyurl.com/2n6zb5

download:

http://download.yousendit.com/0EC7DE066B600A87

features the Peavey JSX Mini Colossal on all guitar parts (other than acoustic).
also features Brent Dacus on drums, drum recording by Mike Musgrove.

after several iterations of mixes, this is it.
a final mix for me, right or wrong, i stuck a fork in it.
moving on now, with a fresh new mix on my werewolf song for halloween.
posting soon....
comments are welcome.


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I love the guitars at the intro...the harmonies are awesome. Just my opinion (although my opinion happens to be wholly aligned with the truth)

Drums sound good.
Guitars sound awesome
Snare sounds pretty good...


Good song, Gonzo. keep it up sir/ma'am/whatever.

Cholo
 
This song has some Yes inlfuences. Lots of nice change-ups. Sounds great. It's not only done, it's well done. (couldn't resist)

Cheers,
 
Great...

Love it. Most of all I like the arrangement. It all comes together really well. Reminds me of a favourite seventies band, Be Bop Deluxe, who's singer/guitarist/songwriter was a not only a genius guitarist but a great arranger.
Well done mate. Raises the bar for the rest of us.
A run down on your setup would be good.
Cheers,
Mike.
Australia.
 
Man that's a smokin' song!!... uh and recorded well also ;)

I really dug that thick deap guitar tone ....and everything else too..

Great job!!

Rick
 
I'd kiss your ass, but everybody else here seems to have that covered........:D:D:D;)

Sweet mix! How the hell did you get so much effin' punch!? I'd really appreciate the help mang. I wanna make badass mixes too! LOL
 
wow, what a great response from you folks....
thanks!


elcholo -
thanks for listening...
we're all a 'me', 'cept for the drummer.
he was a hired hand for this project, and did a killer job.


Chili
'well done'
LOL
i hear the 'yes' connection often enough, that i suppose there must be something to it.
i never played or learned any Yes tunes thru my playing life, but i've listened from the very beginning.....
maybe i should crack open Fragile and Close to the Edge, and see what i can steal!!


RocknRollOver
glad you liked it!


Mikromort-
touring...
ugh.
i toured full time for 6-1/2 years.
but hey, it would be cool to put a band together strictly to do the original stuff.
the hardest part, would be picking the players....
i think i'd need 5 guitar players!
LOL
thanks for listening.......

livitup-
my recording setup for this was pretty meager-
pics at the bottom.

basically, this mix now, i did in sonar.
so, i've moved to sonar, and the electric guitar tracks on this mix, were done directly into sonar.

but the original tracks, were done on a roland Daw.....

it's a VS-1880 recorder, using a ART DPS as a digital convertor to bypass the built-in convertors and preamps in the VS.
the preamp i use is a A Designs Audio MP-1 class A tube mic pre....
ADK Hamburg and AT4033 mics, sm57 as well....
Dbx compressor.....sansamp bass DI for the bass signal.....

now, for this version, i took all the VS tracks, created wav files from the data backups, put all those into SONAR, and started over from scratch.
i scrapped all the original guitar tracks, and did them all direct, more or less for the experiment side of it.
guitars: all re-done from the original tracks, using the mini colossal direct. straight into the MP-1, into the convertor, into the soundcard.


Mike J
the arrangement is KEY to this one.....
i spent several years working on different versions of this, til i arrived at this one.
be bop deluxe, i remember Bill Nelson.
he was cool.....
don't hear that band name pop up very often!!
LOL
thanks for listening!

werner-1
that 'deep guitar tone'..... that was all peavey jsx mini colossal direct.
i've had a pod xt, and i dig this direct tone out of this little midget tube amp way better than anything i could ever pull out of the pod.
and all i did, was plug up, set the gain knob, set the tone knob, crank up my direct drive to it's usual settings, go direct out of the amp and play.
a little tweaking on mixdown was all it took, to find that tone.
easy as pie.


jrhager84
"I'd kiss your ass, but everybody else here seems to have that covered"

LOL
well, i do appreciate positive feedback, i never think of it like that, really, i just figure 'damn, finally i've done a decent mix'

i never aspired to be a good engineer... it's just the thing i have to do to write my songs on my own....
but, i'd say, for punch, start with just the drums.
and tweak and tweak til you get what you want.
lots of compression and eq on each individual part, to make it do what you want it to do.
i did a lot of automation, experimented a lot with compression and eq......
there's no one rule, it's always different for every song, and for every type of tone and even type of player.
you take what you've got, and then with (hopefully developed over time) skills you go after what you want.
more punch on the kick?
well, thats some eq, very selective cuts, and some tricky compression settings, which aren't tricky once you figure them out.
i'm still figuring!!

srx bass close:


vs recording rig:


strats and mini-c-cab:
 
the bottom pic, shows the little mini colossal on top of another cab...

for this recording, i just ran it direct, and used no speakers.
 
alas, i just sold the mini.


hope the new owner digs it.

i'm investing in a palmer pdi-09 instead, and a weber mass, and try this same experiment with my boogie.
 
nice mix

everything sounded good.. only thing i noticed first time through was @ 1:42 the guitar that came in kinda died without any tail on the sound.

enjoyed the song.. very nice!
 
WOW!!!!!!

Great recording, great voice, and great sounding guitars -- all six of 'em. Just one question -- the streaming window shows a Squire Strat. For real?

Tom
 
Arrangement is pretty busy, love the parts though..... You continue to amaze ( I know I've said that before but it's true.....)

Do the drums sound a bit too snappy? Snare wise I mean.....Compression seems a bit overdone, stuff sounds a wee bit squished together. Could be the combination of lots of parts and compression....

Very hot prog rocker here....always changing and full of melodies.

Still some of the best stuff posted on this board.....

:cool::D:cool::D
 
The 1st link took me to porn.
How do you get a screen pic of your tracking?
I really enjoyed it when the guitars got gritty.
The lighter airier moments are very Yes - not annoying vox though!
I like the beginning to the dirt solo that does a bar or two before combiing with vox.
Excellent proggy bass sound.
Top notch hotch potch.
 
thanks for checkin' it guys.....

that picture that comes up in the streaming, that's strictly a IAC thing....
i don't know where that came from.

i don't use any fender products, i have a custom made usacg superstrat.
it's on the website home page....
 
JMarcomb
appreciate the listen...
that spot where the guitars stop, is just the way i played it.
all music, 'cept the drums, stops right there.
i think they call it 'building tension'.
LOL
makes me tense, anyway..........!
hehe


Oancient1
that streaming window, with the squire in there, is just an add-on that IAC does, i guess they find some avatar to go along with typical styles.... guitar, or whatever...
i'd rather have the pic of my OWN strat in there!
thanks for checking it out!


ido1957
see, i think the arrangement is dirt simple.....
real straight ahead drums, the guitars, there's typically only 2 of them at a time, and they're just chuggin' along....
but, i've heard that comment before, so there must be something to it.
i just don't see it... i think i have a mind fart.
LOL
the drums, well, yeah, they're up for argument, because i liked them so much, i tried everything i knew how to do, to get them to really stand out.
could be, too much.
but they're a bit 'dead' sounding on the raw tracks, so i figure, even if they sound a bit 'affected' (effected) then it's still better than they were.....
thanks for the kind words.


rayc
PORN?!!

LOL
i checked the links, couldn't get any porn.... dammit.
LOL

:D

that scene pic, is simply a ALT-PRINTSCREEN press, then paste it into some picture editing software, and save it at the right size.
not hard to do, you gotta experiment a bit to know how to set it all up, but once you've got it, it's easy.

proggy bass sound...................... YES! (pardon the pun)
i did work so hard on my bass lines and sound, not to many people comment about that typically, it's always guitars and vox and stuff like that, but i really dig playing bass.
thanks!

icystorm
thanks!
 
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