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    Ketchup Stigmata

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    What a name for a band huh? Still not sure I get it, but thats ok.
    These guys are all still in high school, and they had some pretty cheap equipment (marshall mini-stacks with blown speakers and shorted out guitar electonics, cheap drums,etc)
    But writing wise, I really like thier stuff, thought I would share it.
    Spent last sunday recording this, and a little while messing around with the mixing on it, mostly playing with vocal level envelopes though.
    Quick run down...
    AKG c451b and Soundelux U195 on overheads
    MD441 on all guitars clean and otherwise...
    RNP direct for bass
    Vocals are Soundelux U195 into RNP, including the doubles.
    Not my best work, but I didnt have a lot to work with, and I havent spent a ton of time mixing either. I actually like the way it sounds though just like it is, doubt I'll do much more to it, really, though I will entertain suggestions, mix wise and otherwise.
    I like the song.
    Alot.
    Enjoy.
    www.nowhereradio.com/ketchupstigmata/singles
    I would use hi-fi or download or dont even bother. Lo-fi sucks bad.

    Peace!
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    Peace!
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    Couldn't resist something with the title "Ketchup Stigmata" -- I'm kind of a ketchup fiend!

    This song has a good radio friendly quality to it. Pretty good for a bunch of high-schoolers

    Recording wise, sounds good. I really like the vocal on this. The bass was a little bit hard to make out (I'm listening on headphones, and in lo-fi, so it may just be on my end) The bass drum also sounded like it may could use some reverb -- imho --

    Otherwise, great job!

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    Future HR collabers?????? he he

    Kewl tune! I can picture them "doin' their thing!" out in a local park or arena!

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    Couple of quibbles: that squeal at :44 just as the electric comes in could be a little less piercing I think. Also, (as always) I'd like to hear the vox up more. Am I alone in wanting to hear the vocals on everything? I feel like I'm always saying "turn em' up!" (and people are always telling me to turn mine down).

    I have no problem hearing the bass on this - in fact my only other complaint is that the mix seems pretty heavy on both low and high end. I might lessen the extreme-ness just a bit. But sounds mostly very solid - especially considering they're high school kids.

    Chris

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    Thanks for taking a listen... hope you enjoyed it.
    Yeah, that dude squeals and whammys all over the place, I think several times in almost every song. That one happens to be one of the more high pitched hurtful ones I think. He has a neat style though, especially for what I almost see as just a kid.
    One of my biggest problems is keeping the vocals DOWN, since I will have them WAY louder than everything else if I dont fight the urge tooth and nail.
    You might be right about the high and low, I think I probably fried my high end hearing in bands through the years. Anyone else have a problem with too much high?
    Lots of bright mics too, U195, c451b are both bright...
    I'll post another one if anyone is interested.
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    No problem with high end here... I thougt the recording was great... I felt that you made them sound better then they are...
    One thing that jumped at me were the harmonies somewhere in the middle of the song ... felt a little out of place but that's a small thing... and maybe it's good that it jumps out like that.
    I realy liked the kick drum the fact it wasn't lost in even when the dist guitars kicked in... that was great...

    cheers

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    my savior

    Had to give it a listen tubedude since you were my savior with my own tube amp!!

    Mix sounds really cool...I think they are definately on to something...who would of though Macy Gray...and Billy Corgan would sound so cool singing over an uptempo Nirvana song!!! lol....all those people came to mind while listening...not meant to be a bad thing at all...a very unique and impressive sound they have.
    And you did a really nice job...
    in fact...heck...I'm gonna play it again and keep my foot tappin!!!!

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    man that kid has a weird intriguing voice....at first i thought it was a chick......wow...the song is pretty cool ..man that voice...its like "campy" sounding to me ..like a guy making fun of singers while he's singing....the drums sound really good i thought...right in the VERY first little guitar lick it sounded like one of those chords doesnt fit ....ok i just tried to find it on second time i guess it fits....weird..lol...when the guitars get heavy (im on phones)..it seems to get crispy to me..the highs ..the middle section where it breaks down a bit the loooong feedback part...maybe needs a fatter guitar sound ...it sticks out right there as sounding "preset" guitar to me....



    MAKE THEM USE A CLICK TRACK !


    jamal

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    Yeah this sounds like this would be some fun shit to catch at your local stage. I like the song a lot too especially when shit kicks in.

    At first the guys voice reminded me of Janis Joplin a little bit. I know that sounds far out but..

    You can cover up a lot of this because they just sound like a scruffy bunch of ruffians, but i really would like to hear the vocals a little more up front.
    Keep doing what you're doing - Woodward

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    Originally posted by Jamal Bucket
    man that kid has a weird intriguing voice....at first i thought it was a chick......wow...the song is pretty cool ..man that voice...its like "campy" sounding to me ..like a guy making fun of singers while he's singing....


    MAKE THEM USE A CLICK TRACK !


    jamal
    Haha, I've come to love his voice and style very quickly. So did you like it, or no? You kind of said it was weird intriguin but then you never really said if you actually liked his voice. I think he has a cool nasally sound to him, and he does pretty good with doubling. His 1st time ever recording and he did all the doubles in one take, and he totally understood what I wanted from him at the time.
    I think just about everyone should use a click, but it wasnt happening at this session, didnt even try to incorporate it this time.
    Want another one?
    Peace!
    Paul

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