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    Ok, this is a bit odd...

    I have never liked journey and I always particularly disliked the song open arms, but I heard it on the radio the other day and had an idea...bluegrass...

    Well, I am incapable of playing bluegrass, so I just sort of tried to go in that general direction. I got the chords and lyrics off the net and did this in about an hour or two in the garage. I changed the melody a bit in places and added some harmonies to try for sort of an appalachian sound.

    I realize the recording quality is nothing special (no reverb or eq yet), but I am wondering what folks think about it conceptually at least. What, if anything, could I or should I do to this to improve upon what I have?

    If any of you heard or remember my version of the go-go's vacation from a few months ago, this is sort of in that same vein.

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/song...songID=5803323

    Thanks in advance for any advice, comments, etc.
    Pete

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    I don't know the original, but I like the style you have going here. I thought your vocals were a little too separated, but the singing was good.
    I really...really...REALLY have no idea what I'm talking about...AT ALL.

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    Thanks for listening monkey allen...

    your vocals were a little too separated
    So the panning is too extreme? There are 2 main tracks and 2 bgv tracks...is there a general rule of thumb for panning in these situations?

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    Lol. Man, no offense, but that doesn't sound very bluegrass. It just sounds like a bad acoustic cover. Some of the harmonies are off and the vocal tone sounds sort of robotic. Maybe that's whats throwing it off for me. I like the idea of where you're going with it though. Just clean up the performance some.

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    heatmiser, there's no rules...but I felt that they may have been better closer together. I'm with Greg too...it could have been a little more bluegrass!
    I really...really...REALLY have no idea what I'm talking about...AT ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_L View Post
    Lol. Man, no offense, but that doesn't sound very bluegrass. It just sounds like a bad acoustic cover. Some of the harmonies are off and the vocal tone sounds sort of robotic. Maybe that's whats throwing it off for me. I like the idea of where you're going with it though. Just clean up the performance some.
    I agree 100% and it sounds like a campfire version ----- and tune that guitar, too.
    Bluegrass ? Where's the fiddles, banjo and maybe the odd yodel
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    Thanks for being brutally honest .

    I should have known mentioning bluegrass would be a problem. I was just trying to explain what led me to decide to do a faster, mellower acoustic version of the song. If I could have done a bluegrass version I would've, but if soundclick had a campfire genre, I'd gladly move it there.

    The guitar is a 1948 Kay archtop hollowbody (my dad's old cheap but beautiful guitar) with intonation issues. The strings are a couple of weeks old. It was tuned immediately prior to tracking. That is about as good as it gets. So, if it is that noticeable, I either need a new guitar or need to lay off the acoustic numbers 'cause it ain't gonna get much better than that .

    As for my singing, I would've said I have an abnormally low voice with very little range. But I honestly thought I had pretty good pitch and was fairly expressive. So the robot comparison hurts, but I probably need to know these things.

    I have to face the sad possibility that I may be tone deaf (?). I just don't hear the pitch issues with the voice or guitar except in a few brief instances...I really do appreciate the comments though, as I normally don't have the guts (or can't be bothered) to let someone know when their recording has problems.

    Thanks again .

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    Here's my brutally honest opinion...

    1. Guitar is out of tune, really needs to be fixed
    2. Vocals sound pretty good to me. Lower notes are out of tune and sound kind of like when I try to sing while I'm really drunk/wasted
    3. Rhythm guitar needs some changing in rhythm to make it more interesting. Kinda makes the song sound like it's "dragging on"

    Tune the guitar. Don't drink before you sing. J/k

    But fix the performance issues like the others said and I think an acoustic version of this would actually sound good. Aside from those 3 things, I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heatmiser View Post
    Thanks for being brutally honest .

    I should have known mentioning bluegrass would be a problem. I was just trying to explain what led me to decide to do a faster, mellower acoustic version of the song. If I could have done a bluegrass version I would've, but if soundclick had a campfire genre, I'd gladly move it there.

    The guitar is a 1948 Kay archtop hollowbody (my dad's old cheap but beautiful guitar) with intonation issues. The strings are a couple of weeks old. It was tuned immediately prior to tracking. That is about as good as it gets. So, if it is that noticeable, I either need a new guitar or need to lay off the acoustic numbers 'cause it ain't gonna get much better than that .

    As for my singing, I would've said I have an abnormally low voice with very little range. But I honestly thought I had pretty good pitch and was fairly expressive. So the robot comparison hurts, but I probably need to know these things.

    I have to face the sad possibility that I may be tone deaf (?). I just don't hear the pitch issues with the voice or guitar except in a few brief instances...I really do appreciate the comments though, as I normally don't have the guts (or can't be bothered) to let someone know when their recording has problems.

    Thanks again .
    Well man, don't take it personally. If I sounded harsh I certainly didn't mean to be. It's just what I heard. I don't think anyone in here is trying to be obnoxiously nagative. Use these unbiased opinions to your advantage and work on the stuff thats mentioned. If 2 or more different people on different systems hear the same problem, then it's probably really something to look into. Just keep working at it. Good luck bro.

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    Thank you Danny and Greg.

    Danny, I think I only had 3 or 4 beers... I

    No apologies necessary Greg ...and I don't feel that anyone is being obnoxious. I am not trying to dispute anyone's observations, but merely expressing frustration over the fact that, since I can't hear the problems the way you all hear them, I am concerned that I may not be able to fix them.

    Seriously...I may be tone deaf.

    But, I am nothing if not stubborn...so, I now intend to stick with this general idea but retrack everything. I will try to pay closer attention to pitch when tracking vocals and will also try to vary the instrumentation at least to some degree.

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