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    I got one more I'd like to share. It's from the same session as the one I posted previously. No, not the elevator music. lol.

    Keep in mind, this song is a little long at about 5 minutes. And it's repetitive, so I'm not overly thrilled with the structure. But then it isn't my tune, either. I just engineered and mixed it. So I'd appreciate any comments you might have in regards to the tracking and overall mix. If you don't get through the whole song, at least try skipping to the very ending; there's sort of a bonus track that sounds pretty cool. Thanks!

    http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/...=1298&alid=402

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    Well. . . It is a very good job tracking. I don't like the reverb on the snare. When it gets to the verse part, with the hi-hat and snare, I hear the 'verb too much. Just set the decay time faster or something in the verse, and/or turn the wet mix down. Very good bass drum sound though. I would also kind of like to hear a bit brighter cymbals and man is that crash in your face, can you turn it down a bit.

    Good vocal track, very good. Very nice guitar sound too. Bass could maybe come up a tiny bit. Good sound overall.

    This song could use a kickin chorus (in terms of song structure)song and it would be really good. I mean a Coldplay or U2 type big chorus though where he goes high and screams and stuff.

    Maybe some synth strings if you were so inclined, there is some room for something higher in frequency that still wouldn't clutter up your mix. Maybe some sustaining guitar with chorus and delay, or ebow?

    The thing that comes in at the end also shows promise to be a ghood song. Give it a beat, an upbeat one, add a piano and another kickin chorus and sell it triple platinum.

    Good sound for real though. This group's recording will be nice to show future clients.

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    hey, I like how you get the guitars together and blended and still plenty of separation in voice freq'. thats real cool man. learned something... Beezoboy said it already but, I would like to hear the kick and bass "babumpin" a tad more. really smooth clear sound.
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    Beezoboy: Now that's some feedback I can sink my teeth in to. Great points you bring up, Beezo. Seriously, you would have made an excellent producer/arranger on this one -- I wish I could have been involved in the arrangement myself for a lot of the same reasons. I'm probably the only one who likes the reverb on the snare, but I can see how it could get excessive. I need to re-examine how I'm tracking drums. The cymbals and crashes can get out of hand.

    Anyone with suggestions on mic positioning for less cymbal? I've run out. I hate to do it, but I'm almost ready to start mic'ing all the toms up, but I'd like to avoid it wherever possible.

    Thanks again!

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    Nice vocal sound....very intimate....the guitar is nice and clear.....no muddy bottom end to it.....the overall mix and balance sound good to me. i still don't care for the bass sound. I, personally like a bit more presence on the bass but that's a preference of mine that not everyone shares.

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    No problem man. It easy to make comments on a mix like this, where there are only a few minor problems.

    Could you comment on how you are positioning your overheads. You didn't really say in the other thread in recording techniques. Also is this drummer using a thick crash? It almost sounds like a John Bonham type crash sound. The cymbals sound thick like a ride cymbal - thick and dark. Also what are the positions of the crash cymbals in relation to the kit?

    Answer these questions and maybe we can figure out something. I have just been through a couple weeks of fighting with a drumset too.

    (Edit #1)OK I am editing after I have listened some more. It sounds like this drummer does not hit the toms very hard. That could help a lot too with the toms. To me it sounds like the cymbal on the left (in the mix) is the culprit. The one on the right is pretty nice and airy.

    (Edit #2)After listening more I have decided the ride and crashes could come down in the mix entirely. Turn down the overheads and boost the mids in them to bring the toms out. Also you could turn the guitars up a bit more and accomplish the same thing, if you raised the snare and bass drum a bit.

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    I really like it all.

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    Sounds good to me. Can't add anything that hasn't been said already (Beez). Everything sounds nice & clean. Nice work.
    John


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    awesome man...I wouldn't change a thing
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    I thought it was a little cymbal heavy and I agree with Lt. about a bit more defined bass sound. I am not to wild about the slight delay sound on the vocal or room verb..or whatever effect you're using. To me it actually takes away from the intamacy of it. If he is singing softly, as he is, then a more "up close" sound to the mic is what I would look for..even more breathy too...where you can hear the saliva smacking around too.

    Maybe since the song is so repetative, you could change things around mixwise to add more dramatics to the song. Change the gtr volumes around a bit more noticeably...but not too much where it sounds drastic. Stuff like that.

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    Thumbs up Critique of my own mix (in hindsight) . . .

    Awesome man, don't change a . . .

    Wait a minute, I'm banning . . . uh (realizes he's paid for his nowhere radio account with unlimited space) . . . yea, that's awesome, man!

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