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    Classical/Prog Rock fusion thingy:redux

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    This is a revised version of a tune I put up here in December. Whats new?

    Tighter
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    The Drums

    The drums are a hybrid of real player ( a kickass one) and drumagog. My collab partnah FrederickRM did the Drumagog and I edited the heck out of it. It's not working as well as I wanted, any suggestions are sorely needed.

    This is off my classical fusion CD, which is done after this track is finalized. This track is the "crossover, Trans-Siberian Orchestra hit" one, it needs to be GOOD. Be picky, go nuts.

    A stellar Cast of HRs finest ( and some from the other place) are on this, all doing an amazing job. I had a lot of fun doing this one:

    David- Violins, Keyboards and arrangements
    Mixmkr- the guitarist to the stars on lead guitbox
    Joro,
    Rawtunes- Guitars. Rawtunes also plays some acoustic on this.
    Jimi2toes- worlds fastest drummer hits the skins.
    Frederick-Drumagog samples

    The Suite

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    Starts very pleasant.

    I love the rain section. I kind of was dissapointed when it kicked up into high gear. It's raining here now and it added a nice ambience to my work day.

    Don't like the guitar tone, too processed sounding but that's just me.

    Ends very pleasantly.

    Ok now why is the Danse macabre missing from your site? (sorry can't remember the exact name. )
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    Thanks for checking it out EL

    Quote Originally Posted by EL34
    Ok now why is the Danse macacbre missing from your site? (sorry can't remember the exact name. )
    Because I, umm, errr, ahh, errr,... got a deal from a record label It was decided that I would take down some songs for a while to, err, umm, get them ready for prime time.

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    Ahh, splains that and sincere congrats on the record deal.

    That tune was off the scale good in my oppinion.

    I would like to know when your stuff can be purchased. Keep me posted.

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    "The Suite" right? I've used Drumagog - it sounds to me like what's happening is the original drum track wasn't very loud and thus the plugin might be making some hits too soft, etc. What I used to do is crank up/compress the source track so the peaks are all high and fairly consistent.

    Aside from that, and a bit of a strange intro, this track has some killer stuff in it. You ever heard Nightwish? Find the song Gethsemane if you can, and that's what I could envision the fast part being similar to. Is that fast part a keyboard?

    This is what I had hoped you meant by classical metal, I'm actually doing some stuff for my new cd which I'd dig having that sort of feel to. More of a modern metal sound, but compositionwise heavily influenced by "the greats"..

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    Nice, beautiful tune man. There seems to be a few spots with the acoustic that have a bit of boom to them...a bit too much low end. Just a few thumps. Drums sound great in this. (actually, it all does...) Nice ending. I'm glad it didn't just quit, you wound it down for a second. It sets the tone back to what the beginning is.

    Nice piece man...I really like it. It's a fun listen....
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    Thanks, oh wondrous recording brethren

    it sounds to me like what's happening is the original drum track wasn't very loud and thus the plugin might be making some hits too soft, etc. What I used to do is crank up/compress the source track so the peaks are all high and fairly consistent.
    The original drums were a different style basically, more jazz. This tune started out as something different and changed when mixmkr added his amazing contribution. It started out more new-agey.

    There seems to be a few spots with the acoustic that have a bit of boom to them...a bit too much low end. Just a few thumps.
    That's a synth. There is very little "real" guitar in the beginning, I just threw in a few notes that you KNOW are real ( like the open harmonics) to confuse the listener into thinking its all real. I'm sneaky.

    What do I do to fix that Ed? I assume a low cut of some sort? I suck at the technical stuff, I'm a hot fiddler but a lousy engineer. Hold me

    Is that fast part a keyboard?
    Its sixteen real violins, all me overdubbed. I practiced a lot as a kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidK

    That's a synth. There is very little "real" guitar in the beginning, I just threw in a few notes that you KNOW are real ( like the open harmonics) to confuse the listener into thinking its all real. I'm sneaky.

    What do I do to fix that Ed? I assume a low cut of some sort? I suck at the technical stuff, I'm a hot fiddler but a lousy engineer. Hold me
    Ok, so the acoustic at the start, is a synth? I'm talking at about 1:07, and so. At 1:37, is one of the louder low end booms. Not horrible, just a bit loud in the bottom. I think I hear 3 spots. It sounds like just one note each time. I'd say, if you can isolate the frequency, and the spot, either eq it out right there, or compress it a bit harder in that frequency. And again, it could just be doing it due to a 128k MP3. You seem to be able to cram a bunch of sound into these. A wav may not sound like this. So, I really have nothing, but some experimentation, but it might work if you feel it needs correcting.
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    Ok, so the acoustic at the start, is a synth?
    Yup. Its basically ALL synth, the whole acoustic part. I threw in a few notes of real when he hits open strings or harmonics, but its 98% synth. Not a bad emulation, the Roland JV1010 has some very nice guitar sounds if you know how to use them ( tricks like rolling the chords.)


    A wav may not sound like this.
    It doesnt. It's even boomier Its bugged me for a long time but I was too lazy to fix it. Since I am trying to finish up this whole CD, I am in "nitpick" mode and wanna try and fix all that stuff. Ya know, before millions of young, nubile teenege vixens buy my "OBVIOUSLY tailor-made for teen girls" classical abominations.





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