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    Acoustic rock/emo fans out there?

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    I figured I'd upload this to Soundcloud and make it easier to view.

    Looking for any feedback and second opinions on this. I'll be working on a 2nd mix and playing around with the compression, because I believe that's where I'm having the most trouble. So let me know what you think...


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    The acoustic guitar in the intro is compressed pretty hard. So is the vocal. So is pretty much all of it. I'd back off of some of that.

    I think the sounds overall are rather nice. Except maybe the cymbals - they're getting soundcloud-swirlified. It's just that everything is loud and trying to be the center of attention.

    OK the bass is a bit on the sterile side - missing some low-mids. LIke in the 300hz - 600hz octave.

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    i don't like emo too much but i like "indie" and acoustic music. i thought your song was pretty good at times (the melody during the chorus is solid); the verses are pleasing but also kind of boring in a way (sorry). the mix needs some work -- the panned guitars don't work b/c it's such a sparse song. i'd bring those guitars inward, especially the left ear. your drums sound panned, too. i'd center those. at that point i'd refit the vocal into that mix, and i think things would sit better. the acoustic guitar sounds too upfront, too.

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    At 1:10 there's a really harsh sound like someone's beating a piece of plastic with a stick and it's really loud (I believe it's supposed to be side sticking). It's covering up a nice reverby vocal and nice acoustic part. There's also a 6k-8K harshness that especially shows up on "Don't" at about 3:37. The strings at the beginning are also a bit harsh but they don't really last long enough to hurt things. The mix is very fatiguing on the ears. (I'm listening at about 95dB where most would listen to that style of music).
    The vocals sound good, but buried in an attention grabbing mix. I normally don't like wide panned drums, but it sounds very artistic in this mix (I see I'm disagreeing with Nola on this...sorry, just my opinion). The acoustic was well recorded...good tone and playing. Really, all the performances sound well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroKen_H View Post
    At 1:10 there's a really harsh sound like someone's beating a piece of plastic with a stick and it's really loud (I believe it's supposed to be side sticking). It's covering up a nice reverby vocal and nice acoustic part. There's also a 6k-8K harshness that especially shows up on "Don't" at about 3:37. The strings at the beginning are also a bit harsh but they don't really last long enough to hurt things. The mix is very fatiguing on the ears. (I'm listening at about 95dB where most would listen to that style of music).
    The vocals sound good, but buried in an attention grabbing mix. I normally don't like wide panned drums, but it sounds very artistic in this mix (I see I'm disagreeing with Nola on this...sorry, just my opinion). The acoustic was well recorded...good tone and playing. Really, all the performances sound well done.
    This was pretty much my opinion. I thought this was really well done except for the loud clicking sidestick part and a general high harshness at times. I didn't mind the panned drum pieces. I think it just opens up what should be an open, wide, acoustic song. Things get a little harsh/cluttered around 3:25. Pretty good though
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    The compression could be reduced to open it up a bit. If it is supposed to be acoustic, then there has to be some range. A couple of place where you could turn down a track so the peak doesn't push your compressor so hard (like the guitar at 0:41). The stick beating was fine, just need to get some of that nasty frequency out.

    Now this is just a guess, but EQing the vocals and reduce some 2-4K area (scoop somewhere in that region to taste) would get the vocal smoother.
    Then give it some air on the overall mix.

    Overall, good modern sounding song. I haven't listened to radio in a few years, so my modern may now be old. Good tune overall, worth tweaking and polishing.
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    Thanks guys for the feedback. All great suggestions. I'm working on a new mix with all this in mind and will upload it at some point. The reason it seems so compressed is because it was the only way to get an overall "loud" volume, but I can play around with that and see if I can boost the volume while reducing compression.

    Broken_H, what do you mean by "The mix is very fatiguing on the ears. (I'm listening at about 95dB where most would listen to that style of music)."? Does that mean that overall everything is loud? Or just "harsh" frequencies throughout?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzitioner View Post
    Broken_H, what do you mean by "The mix is very fatiguing on the ears. (I'm listening at about 95dB where most would listen to that style of music)."? Does that mean that overall everything is loud? Or just "harsh" frequencies throughout?
    I know the comment you're quoting wasn't mine, but I had a similar feeling, so I'll answer for me. For me, it's a bit of both compression and harsh frequencies, but more so the compression. There is a little brittleness, but I think with some more moderate amounts of compression, that might not be an issue.

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    Thanks Trip. That exactly. Honestly, sometimes overcompressing (which I am known for) adds a lot of upper mid harshness. Kicking the compression down may solve the EQ issues...If you want professional levels, pay someone to master it professionally...
    I know...I can't afford that right now either, so my mixes are 6-10dB lower than what's on the radio. Doesn't matter to me if it sounds loud as long as it sounds good (my mixes, that is).
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    So after many attempts to improve on the mix, keeping everything in mind from all your suggestions, I was having trouble getting a good sound again. So I basically started over with mixing, and EQ, and compression (1st link). I don't know if I liked the result as much so then went back to the original mix and altered some (2nd link). The compression is still a bit high, which I tend to prefer to get the volume out of it (because everything sounds better louder, right?) but I removed some of the outliers and the harshness so hopefully it won't be as noticeable.

    Let me know which you prefer and where to go from here:



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