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    Quote Originally Posted by kenholz View Post
    you need to copy the track, and shift the second track 15-20ms. This will make it sound thick and full. Also will give you contrast left to right.
    Never do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouldersoundguy View Post
    Never do this.
    Thank you. I second that vehemently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMI View Post
    Thank you. I second that vehemently.
    Third. I've heard of doing this with double-tracking rhythm guitars, that doesn't seem too bad, but for the whole song? I don't know, doesn't sound like a good idea. I've started using limiters and I'm really liking the effect I'm getting. The tracks all sound quiet together, but the master track I slap some very light compression and a good limiter and I'm liking the sonud I've been getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamecx View Post
    Third. I've heard of doing this with double-tracking rhythm guitars, that doesn't seem too bad.
    No, even for guitars recording the same part twice by actually playing it twice is generally the best way to go. Duplicating tracks doesn't accomplish any good.

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    Here's a great tool(beside your ears) to make sure you are not over doing the master limiter. TT Dynamic Range Meter - Fight the Loudness War

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenholz View Post
    you need to copy the track, and shift the second track 15-20ms. This will make it sound thick and full. Also will give you contrast left to right.
    REAL bad idea. This is just a comb filter generator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMI View Post
    No, even for guitars recording the same part twice by actually playing it twice is generally the best way to go. Duplicating tracks doesn't accomplish any good.
    Ah, yeah I heard of it sort of like "You can do it, but it's not the best route" sort of way. Just to give it a stereo feel, where you have one track hard left and the one that's just a few milliseconds off hard right. I haven't recorded any rock/metal music in a while, but I usually just play it twice as tight as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elton123 View Post
    Here's a great tool(beside your ears) to make sure you are not over doing the master limiter. TT Dynamic Range Meter - Fight the Loudness War
    Ah, thanks. That looks really useful. I'm going to look into it.
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    I made a video on this topic, but I can't post it here because I haven't made ten posts yet. Google for the title and you'll find it:

    How to master a song loud - and, the price you pay


    Or, maybe someone helpful could post the actual link for me ?

    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenholz View Post
    you need to copy the track, and shift the second track 15-20ms. This will make it sound thick and full. Also will give you contrast left to right.
    No it won't. It will make the song sound slapped back and comb-filtered. It will also DESTABILIZE contrast to L and R. Haas effect trickery almost never works.

    THIS IS BAD BAD BAD BAD ADVICE.

    I fourth the motion that this is NEVER to be done.

    Cheers

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    I guess no one likes my idea. I have found it to work great on my recordings. I can understand if you have money to invest in nice plug-ins but I have about 100$ in my studio. Here is my youtube channel. You can hear the effect on the guitars and I think it sounds fine. I even used it on the little solo in the middlde of the song.
    Impossible.wmv - YouTube
    solo is at 2:12

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