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    hey lets say i have 2 very similar sounds that share similar frequencies and i want to have good separation. Besides panning wouldn't it make sense to use 2 different reverbs? I mean if i have 2 similar sounds in the same hall reverb send doesnt that increase the likelyhood of them fighting eachother and better to use two different hall verbs?

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    If you are talking about instruments, I don't like using 2 different reverbs, I use one for all the instruments to make them sound like they are in the same space. Depending on how you have panned the track, you can pan the reverb similarly to keep your separation.
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    If the reverb is on a separate, stereo aux/bus and your tracks are panned, the reverb will still reflect that (no pun intended), and unless you've got it dialed crazy high or flip polairty, is not going to change the overall balance enough to worry about (IMO/IME).

    I use the same reverb for space/spacing/depth/homogonizing/whatever that way for everything, just dialing in the amount on the sends. Of course you can include obvious reverb (or delay) effects where it makes sense, but those would go on the individual tracks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scopus View Post
    hey lets say i have 2 very similar sounds that share similar frequencies and i want to have good separation. Besides panning wouldn't it make sense to use 2 different reverbs? I mean if i have 2 similar sounds in the same hall reverb send doesnt that increase the likelyhood of them fighting eachother and better to use two different hall verbs?
    That part, not necessarily. But there also this; Time based effects (delay, reverb and recorded or effects like short room reflections) that lie in close to the source- like less than 10 milliseconds or so, are heard as blending in as part of the source.
    So using a common short 'close in' time effects could be seen as blurring them together. (Short stuff like this also has the effect of having us hear them 'back and in the space.. see below..

    But having some pre delay dialed in -often built into things like a hall verb for example, would remove that aspect of it.
    What would remain are these two or more sources 'up front untouched' more or less in the panned field perhaps, with the diffuse verb blend behind them.
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    I usually use the same reverb on the vocals and instruments as I like them to sound in the same space, but different amounts on different things or you can swamp the mix.

    However exception is I often have a different reverb on the drums as I like to use plate verbs on drums. Even to the point of having a plate on the snare and maybe a little of the main reverb on the toms, as I usually record real kits there is spill anyway so a little of the verbs on the drums get picked up.

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    Another way to reduce mud/build up when using separate reverbs is to automate them so that the level is reduced or even muted when that instrument isn't "out front" . IOW I have seen some engineers ride a vocal reverb and/or delay up only at the end of a line right before the instrumentation comes back up then ride it back down during the actual singing. I know it sounds weird but if you are using multiple verbs as inserts or even separate aux's it can be a good method for keeping clarity in the mix.
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    Thanks guys for all the helpful tips!

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    P.S. Always good to check your mix in mono if you're relying on panning to keep similar things separated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keith.rogers View Post
    P.S. Always good to check your mix in mono if you're relying on panning to keep similar things separated.
    will do!
    thanks
    Last edited by scopus; 11-13-2018 at 10:10.

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