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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesfordan View Post
    the humane thing to do is not put my 'music' out there

    mass hysteria, cats and dogs living together, milk curdling, that sort of stuff
    we all have plenty of those tracks
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesfordan View Post
    had an interesting couple of takes the other day. new bass arrived, Squier VM Jazz bass. Immediately tried recording a couple tracks. Going DI with a compressor before the AI, I was getting some righteous bottom. Did a quick dub onto a cassette to listen in my car.

    Bass that sounds just like a record, hallelujah. But where did the guitars go? It doesn't seem as simple as turn the guitar tracks up, I don't want to overdrive the overall level.

    Do I want to low pass the bass track? I did high pass the guitar tracks around 250-300 Hz to make room for the bass, I just didn't expect them to fade away as much as they did. Is this where EQ and compressor plugins (or hardware if you have it) come into play to help the guitars have focus? ..
    Just to jump in late here with some questions and a wild ass guess'.. Might the previous 'mix and guitar's tones been set without a bass in there?
    Now 'eq trimmed to share with the bass, previous tones might not have their old bold tone (..that may have been part of their previous strength?

    In any rate, a mix should be worked up so that levels are still well below 'over driving the master bus. This leaves you the headroom while you sort this stuff out and dial the mix in. Then bring it up for the final level. ..And how it then fairs into master limiting or compression if that's the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mixsit View Post
    Just to jump in late here with some questions and a wild ass guess'.. Might the previous 'mix and guitar's tones been set without a bass in there?
    Now 'eq trimmed to share with the bass, previous tones might not have their old bold tone (..that may have been part of their previous strength?
    you know, I believe you might be onto something there. Plus I'm so used to hearing only guitars and now I have the bass it's time to rethink my game plan. To the drawing room, Watson, we have much ground to cover, the game is afoot.

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    Bass that sounds just like a record, hallelujah. But where did the guitars go? It doesn't seem as simple as turn the guitar tracks up, I don't want to overdrive the overall level.
    Welcome to the world of mixing.

    Sit back and relax and use your tools, skills, knowledge and experience(EQ (complimentary EQ Techniques) Reverbs, Effects, pans, mid and side processing and dynamic controlled processing to build a great mix where you can hear each instrument clearly, as you hear it in your head.

    FYI, if you lack skills, knowledge and experience, this will come over time
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesfordan View Post
    you know, I believe you might be onto something there. Plus I'm so used to hearing only guitars and now I have the bass it's time to rethink my game plan. To the drawing room, Watson, we have much ground to cover, the game is afoot.
    Cool :>) Forty years in' pays off ever once in a while.. :>)
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    I've been trying to do smiley face and frowny face EQs and not having a lot of luck. In my DAW, I have the option of single band EQ or channel EQ. There's no drawing of any particular EQ curves. Any suggestions? The DAW is Garageband and that's probably the problem right there, isn't it?

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    GarageBand for Mac: Use the EQ effect

    I see here there's a channel eq' has all you could need.
    Step one is deciding the tone change or problem you are trying to solve.
    (Not sure if 'smiley or frown is much of a specific target?

    Pick an eq band to address the main tone issue you want to address first. Q' is how wide the curve will be. The picture looks like the low band there can be a Hi Pass (low cut) to trim that end of things.
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