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    Compression to control dynamics... Tracking problem or Overall problem?

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    Hello all.

    I have a client, in a genre of music I'm not all to familiar with...

    He's a John Mayer-ish sort of Dashboard Confessional mix or something of the sorts. Anywho... I'm having some issues on some mixes, mostly on his acoustic guitar stuff.

    I'm getting a good clear sound when tracking the guitars. I'm tracking the guitar in stereo with a Dynamic and a condensor. It's giving me a great sound, however... My trouble is that the guitar's dynamics are so large, I'm losing some of the delicacies of the playing.

    Considering I'm not used to working in this genre, I'm wondering how to go about controling these dynamics. I've tried some subtle compression, and I really like the sound it's giving me. But, the client has some weird issue about compressing the guitars in the mix, and again during mastering.

    My stance is... I'm the engineer, let me do my job and make it sound great. But then again, he's the one paying me....

    Opinions? Should I just use subtle compression to massage the dynamics of the acoustic guitar? Or should I try vlume automation or something? I really would prefer to not do the latter, as I often dislike the sound it produces on other things...

    Thanks.

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    Use the compression and lie to the client.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthSIDE Glen
    Use the compression and lie to the client.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthSIDE Glen
    Use the compression and lie to the client.

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    EXACTLY. i was gonna say the exact same thing, then i read SSG's post.

    seriously if it sounds better, just tell him you didnt use any compression.

    it's all part of the job, and you know what works and what doesn't.
    Maybe you can interface with my ass, by biting it.
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    Agreed with the above - I think what your client apprehensive is that subtle compression is becoming a lost art. He equates compression with squashing, which is what a lot of engineers do at mastering nowadays.

    Sometiems I wonder if the 'soft knee" settings oughta be replaced with a "knee-jerk" setting......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Change of POETS
    ... My trouble is that the guitar's dynamics are so large, I'm losing some of the delicacies of the playing.
    Ride the fader (or automate it)?
    If it was the vocal for example wouldn't it be sort of on the short list of things to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Change of POETS
    the client has some weird issue about compressing the guitars in the mix, and again during mastering.
    Suggest that he learn how to consistantly control his dynamics when recording.

    My guess is he doesn't have a lot of experience, or he wouldn't be telling you how to do your job when he's not doing his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ez_willis
    Suggest that he learn how to consistantly control his dynamics when recording.

    My guess is he doesn't have a lot of experience, or he wouldn't be telling you how to do your job when he's not doing his.
    Then kick him in the ding-ding and throw him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ez_willis
    Suggest that he learn how to consistantly control his dynamics when recording.

    My guess is he doesn't have a lot of experience, or he wouldn't be telling you how to do your job when he's not doing his.

    Yup, he's a high-school kid trying to cut a demo CD before he graduates in a few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Change of POETS
    The client has some weird issue about compressing the guitars in the mix, and again during mastering.
    Let me guess... He wants it to sound as "real" as possible... Or as "natural" as possible... Well, at least he's on the right track (as far as having a vision for the sound is concerned).

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