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    If you use a compressor and reverb, say for a subtle effect, on the stereo output buss, which order do you put them in?

    (or does it depend on which reverb, which compressor, what the settings are, what the desired sound is, etc.?)

    btw, not that it matters for the question, but I'm using UAD software plugins - the Realverb and the 4k Buss compressor. With the settings I have and the song I have, I think I like the compressor after the reverb because it tones down the reverb some.

    If this is a silly question, then I'll take my beatings now, but I'm hoping it'll make for some interesting (and enlightening for me) answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antichef View Post
    If you use a compressor and reverb, say for a subtle effect, on the stereo output buss, which order do you put them in?
    i NEVER add reverb to a stereo buss, but if i did it would always be compression>reverb. Unless it sounded better with reverb>compression. On those instances i would go with reverb>compression.
    Interesting AND informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ez_willis View Post
    i NEVER add reverb to a stereo buss, but if i did it would always be compression>reverb. Unless it sounded better with reverb>compression. On those instances i would go with reverb>compression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ez_willis View Post
    i NEVER add reverb to a stereo buss, but if i did it would always be compression>reverb. Unless it sounded better with reverb>compression. On those instances i would go with reverb>compression.
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    I guess it depens on what your looking for. The general idea of reverb is to simulate a room. Typically you would put a compressed sound in a room (I would think) so it makes sense (to me anyway) to go compressor > reverb. But like Willis said, if it sounds better to go the other way, do it.

    But if you like it one way because it tones something down (i.e. the reverb) you might try toning it down yourself then reversing the order to see what you like.
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    Let me pour some gas on the fire before it starts smoldering...

    (A) I agree with it being a very, very rare occasion that you'd put verb over an entire sum (while some plugins, which will not be named, make you think it's actually typical - and dare enough to call it "Mastering Reverb" of all things).

    (B) You'd think that the choices (both solid choices to be sure) would be to either compress a reverberated signal or reverberate a compressed signal.

    There's more -- Reverberate the non-compressed signal and mix it in with the compressed signal (pretty simple with some basic bussing). That would allow the reverb to react to the original dynamics without being subjected to the same post-compression.

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    For mastering, once in a while I'll use reverb to elongate the last bit of a fade or tail of a song if it was abruptly cut off, unless that was the original intention.

    That's about the only time I would use a verb on a whole mix, usually the Lexicon 300L brought up and automated pre fader on an aux send.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waltz Mastering View Post
    For mastering, once in a while I'll use reverb to elongate the last bit of a fade or tail of a song if it was abruptly cut off, unless that was the original intention.
    hmmm. i like that.
    Interesting AND informative.

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    I'm surprised to hear all of you are against putting reverb on a bus. Is there a technical reason for this?

    While I don't think I've ever put a reverb on a master bus or anything, I'll occasionally use a bus to sum, say, a pair of mics on a single acoustic, panned hard left and right, into a single stereo channel, and then just add reverb there. Is there a disadvantage in doing it this way (in situations where you don't want a fundamentally different reverb on your left mic than on your right)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewPeterson7 View Post
    I'm surprised to hear all of you are against putting reverb on a bus. Is there a technical reason for this?
    it'll muddy up a mix right quick.
    Interesting AND informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ez_willis View Post
    it'll muddy up a mix right quick.
    But, any bus in general, or just a master bus?

    I mean, if I'm bussing together a couple tracks of a single performance for convenience, do I lose anything by putting a verb on the bus rather than creating a FX send for each track and then adjusting them all to match?
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