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    Hi Folks,
    Have a listen to this bass guitar, the second 2 notes of each pattern is just getting lost in the mix.
    I've tried compression and a dynamic eq but cant get the consistency I need.
    Any advice please?
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    While riding this will do the job, because it would be a lot of work in this arrangement, I would recommend a limiter instead as in this vid
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    Quote Originally Posted by spottydog10 View Post
    Hi Folks,
    Have a listen to this bass guitar, the second 2 notes of each pattern is just getting lost in the mix.
    I've tried compression and a dynamic eq but cant get the consistency I need.
    Any advice please?
    What are your compression settings on bass and on the the rest of the mix? Let the bass come through with a slower attack - add a second compressor or limiter if you're trying to even out the performance (or redo the track if possible).

    If you're compressing *everything* you're also going to make it hard for things to get through, and make sure you're high-passing all but the bass and kick, so there's not other stuff (you might not even recognize as being there) causing later compression (like mix bus if you have that as well) push down the bass.
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    Distortion can help as well. (assuming you can get away with it in the mix)
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    There's also manual editing...just go in slice things up and adjust as needed.
    It sound like a "LOT of work!!!"...but really, it's not once you get comfortable with the whole process, and then it's just assembly line work.

    IMO, it's good to get good at manual editing for a lot of things, rather than always just depending on some processing engaged across the entire track.
    You always have that option anyway, but sometimes you can better get what you want with editing or a combination of some editing and then milder processing across the whole track.

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    First up it's the playing and the actual bass / strings / setup. I can hear by the playing you are hammering the first 2 notes then because of the second 2 note positions you can't hit it so hard.

    If it's too late for that its all in compression, you need the right settings. Maybe try a faster attack and release. Smash the ratio and see if it works for you. The video using a limiter is a good suggestion also.

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    Thanks Guys, all good suggestion a few of which I've implemented.
    I still feel there are notes popping out, especially the A.
    Here it is with a few instruments in.


    I could play it again (I'm no bass player)

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    I'm a bass player, and I doubt I could play it with the second note the same as the first, because of the tempo and the style, and the fact that I'm human and musical. I'm not a machine - perhaps the solution is to replace the bass player with a sample or synth and go back to the 80s? If you need consistency for the music you want to produce, then source an alternative. I don't think what you want is really a bass guitar played by a bass player, but a sequenced, accurate, repeatable attack sequenced track. Maybe even sample the first notes and dump the second ones, or cut out the seconds, and copy and paste the firsts. Rather like asking a guitarist to up strum exactly the same volume as the down strum, or play the down strum twice as fast. Real instruments and players have limits, but if technology can fix them, that's OK with me.

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    Hi Rob, there is more constancy to a decent bass player than a guitar player in that respect.
    I'm looking for groove not machine, something like this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by spottydog10 View Post
    Thanks Guys, all good suggestion a few of which I've implemented.
    I still feel there are notes popping out, especially the A.
    ....
    I could play it again (I'm no bass player)
    Well, at this point, I'd simply start automating the fader on that track if you're down to a few spots but otherwise feel like you're in the right spot.

    Re-recording the bass track is good practice, too
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