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    Hi chaps,

    So I have 2 AC guitars doing slightly different things panned hard left and right.
    Is there a way to stop the constant imbalance between the 2?
    I've tried compression and eq etc but it's not giving me that smooth constancy.
    Have a listen to this clip which is untreated.
    Cheers,
    mike


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    I can hear what you're talking about but I think there are a couple of different aspects to the issue. First........with so much hard separation...........and only the two tracks....... the differences (of all kinds) between the two tracks are emphasized far more than they might be if they were in a mix or at least had some center focus such as a vocal or another instrument. If these two tracks were going to be the complete song then I doubt that they'd be panned so far apart...........lessening the effect. As I watched my meters it appears that the left track is mostly (but slightly) louder than the right......with spikes on the right that are louder than the left. Confused? Just an observation. Some compression does seem to be in order. What are your compression settings that are not working for you?
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    Totally agree with Mickster.
    Have to say, the guitar sounds really nice.

    Are these guitars going to end up part of a mix?
    Usually the way you've recorded and separated them is what you do if you're trying to achieve big width and obvious separation.

    If you pan them a little closer and even out the dynamics like Mickster says I think that'll help blend the two a bit,
    but I'm wondering if you'd end up wanting to undo that once a bass and vocal, for example got added.
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    Here's the guitars in a bit of context


    Thanks for the ideas. I'm finding when compressing the right sided guitar its quite difficult even with a short attack setting on the compressor.
    At the point where it works it sounds too compressed. I might try a de sser on it or a trans x plug in.

    Cheers.

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    Send them to an aux with a compressor on that? It’ll gain up the low side and tame the hotter one as much or little as you want without trying to do it individually.

    P.S. Not saying to completely remove compression on the separate tracks.

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    Keith, what software compressor would you use and what settings please?

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    MV2 those bad boys. Then compress if still needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by spottydog10 View Post
    Keith, what software compressor would you use and what settings please?
    Like everything, it would depend on what was already done and what might be done later. But, I’d lean to something on the colorless side unless you want to try and add that in on the submix and go with less color on the individual tracks. I generally use the Logic’s “Platinum” for colorless compression or their “Studio VCA” (Focusrite Red sim) - nothing really vintage because I put those in the individual tracks typically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spottydog10 View Post
    Hi chaps,

    So I have 2 AC guitars doing slightly different things panned hard left and right.
    Is there a way to stop the constant imbalance between the 2?
    I've tried compression and eq etc but it's not giving me that smooth constancy.
    Have a listen to this clip which is untreated.
    Cheers,
    mike
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    what if you dont pan them hard left and right ?

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    The problem is playing identical (or near enough) parts. It's happened to me, and doesn't help if you only partial pan. You need two different sounds. Use a different 2nd guitar. Play it capoed/up the neck.
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