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    Mastering a song that runs into the next

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    Hi all,

    Maybe this is a dumb question but say you have a song that is connected to the next song on the album by wind where the first song fades to wind and the second song fades in.

    When a mastering engineer is sent something like this, do they master the pair of songs as one? or do they master them separately and somehow add the wind in later? or ...

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    For me the biggest headache is the split point between the two, if they really are separate tracks - like live recordings, they're tricky. If the songs are similar styles, I'd probably treat them as one song, but if they really are two different songs linked with the filler sound, I'd do them separately.

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    Not a dumb question at all....I never thought of that in many years of playing and recording.

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    But if we try to do them separately, isn't there a good chance that the listener would hear a change in volume of the wind at the split point?

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    I would master the two as if they were a single track, i.e. make it one track that consists of Song 1 - wind - Song 2.

    I would then use a tracker marker to create a gap-less split for CD

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    It might be worth making a DJ friendly version with fades in and out of the songs. It will work a lot nicer as a single or on a playlist as well.

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    Generally you master an entire album as one thing. That way you get all the spacing and levels to work together. Adding markers is essentially an independent step.

    [Edit] To clarify, I don't mean you deliver one audio file and have that mastered. You deliver separate files for each track, and for the in between sound. You can send the two songs with the wind sound connecting them in one file as an example, but I would want to do the mastering on the separate files.
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    I'd echo the suggestion to master the whole album at once. For CD masters the audio is just one long stream anyway which can have track and index markers placed as needed. If you are sending this out to be mastered I would suggest sending a single file with everything at the correct time but also send separate files for each song and the noise just to give the mastering engineer all the options.
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    Tracks are nearly always mastered independently (but typically in the same EDL) and assembly is done after. Otherwise, you can never have the track on its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massive Master View Post
    Tracks are nearly always mastered independently (but typically in the same EDL) and assembly is done after. Otherwise, you can never have the track on its own.
    Thanks all. So then you would add the wind in to the 2 tracks later?

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