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    Getting Louder using plugins?

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    Hey all--
    I'm surprised with my limited search that I didn't find too much on the basics of making an overall mix louder. I've always assumed that it's a mastering side of it.

    I've heard compressors and limiters mentioned a lot with reference to this.
    I'm wondering on certain suggested settings etc. Also which plugins should be used? I have the waves Mercury bundle along with the internet if there are better ones..

    I know this isn't a do this and you get this kind of thing. There are always nuances to every different mix, I get all that. Just looking for a launching point with thresholds, attack speeds, etc.
    Also I have no idea about limiters.

    Thanks for the help. Sorry for the broad question. And of course, Mods, if this is in the wrong spot or there is already a thread that would give me the info I need, deleting/moving this right away with a pm notification to me would be very much appreciated.

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    The primary tools are: at least one good mastering-specific limiter, eq and skill. And it's not just nuances, it's drastic differences in settings depending on many factors.

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    Okay. So no compressors. What kind of factors come into play?

    Where do you boost the gain? Just the main on the daw? Or is there a way to boost signal with the Limiter?

    So I'm thinking that the EQ is used to roll back on frequencies which peak more than others ones. Also could be used as the boost point, but I have in my head that boosting overall gain with an EQ isn't the best option. Could totally be wrong.

    Also multiband limiters would probably be the best I'd assume. They're used to place more limiting on certain frequencies as opposed to others? So I'd probably put more limiting power (gain reduction?) in the frequencies that peak the hardest/most.

    Any help/guidance would be awesome. Thanks for the reply.
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    The mastering limiter will boost the gain. If the dynamic range of the song is too much for the limiter to grab without sounding bad, compression before the limiter (actually, compression on the individual instruments that are killing the limiter) is in order.

    No, a multi-band limiter is not better. Multi-band limiters and compressors are a tool for fixing certain things that can't be fixed otherwise. If you have access to the mix session, you should fix those problems there and not try to beat it into submission with a multi-band anything. The L1 or L2 will be just fine.

    Limiting will accentuate certain frequencies in the mix, the EQ is put before the limiter to counter-act that. It is also there so that you can get all the songs on the album to sound like they belong together.

    So, you bought a $7600 plugin bundle that you don't know how to use? I'm sure you wouldn't be asking for help with your cracked plugins...
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    Awesome, thanks for the input.
    I'm looking to learn and really appreciate the help. Limiters are something I've never used. Are they commonly used on the single tracks too? Or mostly just for mastering? I have full access to the mix session so I can adjust things at any level, even re-record if necessary.

    Plugin bundle was a dying gift from my grandpa if you must know. He didn't fully understand the amount that my passion was actually just my hobby and not my profession. Overkill? Absolutely.
    And I have no idea how to use it, yes. Trying to learn though. Not really asking for help with these specific plugins necessarily. More so help with mastering in general. Just mentioned what tools I had available if anyone could use that info to help me more.
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    Don't feel bad, I'm just now getting beyond the stock DAW limiters. I don't really do the loudness thing, But I get something I don't like now and then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farview View Post
    So, you bought a $7600 plugin bundle that you don't know how to use?
    ..this is the first thing that came to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elenore19 View Post
    \Plugin bundle was a dying gift from my grandpa if you must know. He didn't fully understand the amount that my passion was actually just my hobby and not my profession. Overkill? Absolutely.
    what happened to regular old, plain checks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrushkiwt View Post
    what happened to regular old, plain checks?
    Right?
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    Mastering limiters are a little different from standard limiters. They are designed to lift the the volume.

    They can be used on individual tracks, but with mastering limiters, the makeup gain will have to be dealt with, so that the track doesn't end up being full scale.
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