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    Move DAW contents and OS to new computer - confused

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    I have a fairly powerful computer system but the amount of samplers and stuff is causing a few storage issues, so what I want to do is this - build a new computer with better everything, install new drives - same quantity as the old one and then move the entire contents from one to the other, the post painless way. I don't mind buying software to do it, and I'm quite computer literate. Copying the data drives is simple - but what I want to do is move a fully working system on computer A to computer B and once that one works properly and I can work on it, I'll re-purpose the old one. Windows 10 is on it, plus the usual stuff - Cubase, all my Kontakt stuff, sound forge, adobe, and loads of other common stuff. If windows is an issue with authorisation, I'd happily upgrade that too, if it's a simple process.

    The killer will be that any files I open can find all the stuff in the positions they were originally in. I don't want any "cannot find file .....' warnings or requests to search for missing sample files - that kind of thing.

    Does such a migration tool exist, and would the same number of drives but bigger ones mess it up? I've got hardware dongles, software dongles and all manner of authentication requirements. I want a process that more or less guarantees I have no downtime after the move, and pretty much does it for me. I found one but it needed me to select locations for everything, and that would be a real pain, and probably I'd mess it up.

    Is there a move to a new computer app?

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    I did this last time I upgraded the system drive on my audio computer. Since I was moving from a Samsung EVO SSD to a Samsung 960 Pro NVMe, I just used the Samsung disk migration tool. It cloned my old drive to my new drive, so it was a pretty seamless transition.

    I just went looking for the name of the app but I can't seem to find it on my system. I thought maybe it was part of Samsung Magician but I don't see the migration/clone tool in there. Hmmm, now I'm curious.

    Aha...found it on Samsung's website. I really don't know if it works outside of Samsung SSDs, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't. But surely there is equivalent software out there somewhere: SSD Tools & Software | Download | Samsung V-NAND SSD | Samsung Semiconductor Global Website

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    Is that not just a tool to replicate the C: drive to a new one? I can't find anything about it being suitable to move to a new machine with different processors, motherboard and different IO? Looks like it would enable transfer to a new drive on the same system - which would be handy - just unclear if it's able to do it to a new machine entirely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whome View Post
    Why not add storage to the current machine?
    I believe the problem is more than just storage.

    Note this: "build a new computer with better everything".

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    Quote Originally Posted by whome View Post
    But you said the new one would be the same.
    I think you have misread what Rob wants.

    Here is what he said:

    "I have a fairly powerful computer system but the amount of samplers and stuff is causing a few storage issues, so what I want to do is this - build a new computer with better everything, install new drives - same quantity as the old one and then move the entire contents from one to the other, the post painless way."

    So his current system, as good as it is, is running out of puff, and he wants to beef it up. But he is happy with the stuff he has on his old system, so he wants to port that across somehow to a bigger and better computer.

    He doesn't simply need more storage, nor is he interested in switching platforms. He wants what he already has, but better.

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    I used Macrium and one other program to do complete clones from one laptop drive to the new ones and upgraded from an i5 to an i7 while doing so on one of the machines. It's actually easier than you would think. I would advise (as do the programs) of making a complete system back up before cloning just in case. Once you have cloned a hard drive you can just swap it with the old one temporarily to make sure everything works and you are good to go. I kept my old hard drives anyway so if anything disastrous did happen I wont be down completely.

    As for the machine id, windows license number can be transferred, but needs to be re registered IIRC and most software it's just a matter of removing authorization from one machine id and authorizing the new machine. Dev's know people will occasionally upgrade, so there is usually a procedure listed on their sites.
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    I have such a tool - if I can find the thing. Got it from NewEgg.
    Simply put, it's a disc clone.

    USB to SATA cable. A tiny CD of software. Execute. Let it run. Works a treat. Used it several times.
    Doesn't not require same speed or size disc - other than enough room.
    Used it for backups during a critical time. Haven't used it in a couple of years, though.

    Anyway it's out there. I'm not much help, but it's out there.

    Once done, you can replace your C: drive and run like nothing happened. Running on a clone drive right now.

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    Thanks guys. The problem is as some have anticipated, c drive is filling up because some programmes insist it be the home for quite large portions of the content, even if samples go elsewhere. The actual storage drives have no real issues space wise and I can copy those anyway, but the c drive is starting to show signs of lots of caching and swapping. Big sample libraries that are clogging the system up when they load. I'll have a look at some of the options for software. The reality is that as long as I can get a new machine to run exactly the same software on startup, adding the data from the four other drives is the easy bit. Reregistering Windows is fine, and I have to say windows 10 is stable and apart from the annoying updating, is not an issue. As for Linux? How would I run cubase, Adobe, sound forge and kontakt on that OS? I'm not interested in computers, but my work and income is! When steinberg do cubase in Linux some people could be interested, but I won't be one. Ponder 5's solution could be a good one to try, if I can really just plug in a new drive and clone t c drive onto it that could be popped in a new machine. I need to buy three new systems as had an expensive week where a neutral fault in a venue wrecked lots of kit including two computers. One is I think fixable, but the other has a dead motherboard and a now non functioning c drive as well as fried power supply. Nearly 400v up the spout made a small popping noise and a frantic swap to the spare produced a pop from that one too before I realised what was going on! Sorry. Almost started to rant then! It is reinforcing my need for a fully working new system for the studio, before the old one does die!

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    Adapter kits like this are plentiful and cheap: SATA/PATA/IDE Drive to USB 2.0 Adapter Converter Cable for 2.5/3.5 Inch Hard Drive/5 inch Optical Drive with External AC Power Adapter. Google or amazon search the phrase . These can be used to recover (if possible) data from your hard drives in the fried computers sometimes also. Just remove the drives and plug in to a working system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob aylestone View Post
    Thanks guys. The problem is as some have anticipated, c drive is filling up
    Rob, what kind of hardware are we talking about here.
    Do you actually need to upgrade to a new computer?

    I thought it was clear cut, earlier, but it sounds like you might just need a bigger, and maybe faster, system drive.


    Regardless : If you want to move to a bigger system disk and that's that, you can clone your current disc to a larger one, do the switcheroo, and hit the ground running.

    If you want to move to a bigger system disk but then also put that into a new/different PC, you might be able to do the switch and carry on; You might not.
    I've read a fair few reports (modern windows) of migrating a drive from one system to another without issues, but I've also seen plenty of others who hit blue screen and could go no farther because the required sys drivers weren't in place.

    At a minimum I expect you'd need to install the chipset(etc) drivers for the new computer, assuming the machine boots and lets you.


    If your current system disk is not an SSD, I'd buy an SSD that's big enough, do the clone, then take some time to see how your current system goes after that upgrade.
    If that wasn't enough then nothing's lost; You wanted a bigger system disk either way.
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