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    In the past I've always done a strange upgrade path. I'd buy a new video editing computer, and the old one would go into the audio studio. Video is the most intensive use we have here. I'd then install Cubase and the other stuff. I have a two prong issue. This time, there's no need to upgrade the video machine - it's hardly stressed since the thing started, and while installing Cubase is easy enough, the last time one of the old Kontakt instruments - Colossus - gave me considerable grief, as it's old and unsupported now and every time I currently use it, it has to search for the sample files, because they are not where it expects. On Windows 10, the C: drive is also the location for many of Cubase's files and these I've never managed to get elsewhere, so SSDs are filled pretty quickly with the software I have. All the storage of course is elsewhere, and the samples play from two other Tb drives, but slowly and surely C is filling up with every new purchase or upgrade.

    All I want to do is get a new computer - with faster processor, lots of memory and probably 3 internal drives - an SSD, pus two large storage drives, and then it will also have some external drives too. Windows, I know will object the new hardware, but if I can re-authenticate it and make it happy so all locations in terms of drive letters and file structure, work. I've read that some clone/ghost type applications can re-map all the Windows files to make the different drivers, and other gubbins work.

    Maybe I just have to get used the the idea that I really am going to have to start again - but I've got quite a few patched 32 bit VSTi's working through a bridge and this will be a faff to have to do again.

    I was just hoping that migration had been made simpler now - bit it appears not to be the case. The other reason for the change is that Windows has now started removing the Tascam driver I use for my interface and 'updating' it - I then have to re-install the old one manually. The very latest driver just hangs on my machine - I get a strange distortion and it drops out, requiring me to shut down Cubase, then restart it to pick up the driver. Sometimes, a computer restart is needed - the old driver just works.

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    On Mac, I have used Carbon Copy Cloner, both as a bootable backup, and as a way to migrate to a newer, bigger system drive. It does a great job. I'm sure there's an equivalent for Windows. That said, there are always programs that know you're on a different drive, or that the processor ID of your system has changed, and require re-authorization.
    Some vendors just let you re-auth, and some may require interaction to say that you're not using the one that was authorized any more, and this is the new system. Some vendors want you to de-auth the current system before you authorize the new one. You'll have to do some research as to which are which.
    Windows will need to be re-authorized, for sure. And some of your programs and plugins may, but all the data should get copied with cloning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob aylestone View Post
    All I want to do is get a new computer - with faster processor, lots of memory and probably 3 internal drives - an SSD, pus two large storage drives, and then it will also have some external drives too. Windows, I know will object the new hardware, but if I can re-authenticate it and make it happy so all locations in terms of drive letters and file structure, work. I've read that some clone/ghost type applications can re-map all the Windows files to make the different drivers, and other gubbins work.

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    Have you familiarized yourself with NVME SSD drives? You will want to make your C drive an NVME drive. (IF you make a new build) As Steenamarroo pointed out, I'd either stay with the system you have and keep it simple, or be prepared for some work starting a new build. I just did one.

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    Rob, I feel your pain.

    Years ago, I had application moving software from Powerquest, but they were long ago taken over by Symantec and those programs are no longer available. I doubt it would work with Win7 or 10 anyway. It did work with NT4 and Win 2000. I never upgraded to XP, so I never tried it there. It was a lifesaver when the computer on our HP Gas Chromatograph died. I went to the local computer store and bought an off the shelf computer, cloned the drive and spent about 3 days trying to get all the proper NT drivers for the new computer to work. But our program and data were intact, so it was business as usual in under a week. The only change was to upgrade to a 10baseT connection since the old ISA interface card wouldn't fit in any of the new slots!

    My first try would be to build the system, pull the "working" C: drive and replace it with an SSD, then try to clone the old drive. You will probably get a Windows activation alert, but you may be able to get them to activate it. (I had to replace MB/processor due to power surge.... C'mon, its the same case and hard drive... give me a break! ) At the worst, you can reinstall the original C: drive and start reinstalling the programs, trying to track down all the VSTi and other files. I don't fool with Cubase, so I don't know if there are preferences where you can specify where all the bits and pieces are stored.

    Good luck. I hope your backups are fairly recent!

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    Hi Rob, no disrespect to the guys here but I would also get an opinion at Sound on Sound forum.

    Between Martin Walker and Pete of Scan Computers you have two of the best audio related computing brains in the country. Martin I know did a "PC Notes" article about cloning drives some years ago.

    Re the electrical burn up, I hope you are suing somebody? !!

    Dave.

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    I have to admit that I have good backups of the project files but not of the various libraries as they're downloadable files. If the working system can be transferred, then I'll keep it going as a working backup. Cubase uses a dongle, and Adobe can be on multiple machines so feel safe with that.

    I guess you're right, I'll just have to buckle down to do it it properly if the cloning fails! It won't. I feel lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob aylestone View Post
    I don't want any "cannot find file .....' warnings or requests to search for missing sample files - that kind of thing.
    That's gonna be the trickiest part since any migration tool would need to be familiar with all of the different pieces of software that might throw such errors. e.g. It would need to edit your DAW's project files to change paths.
    Does such a migration tool exist, and would the same number of drives but bigger ones mess it up?
    That's also the major solution. As long as all your paths remain identical to what they were before, those old paths should be good. (e.g. if you had a data disk called e: before, you'll need to make sure it's still e:.)
    Last edited by VomitHatSteve; 08-27-2019 at 06:03. Reason: e-colon is a disk path, not an emoticon.

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    just a passing thought - If I buy an indentical motherboard but put in a more modern processor and the same quantity of drives, would this make out simpler as the machines would be more or less identical in hardware terms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob aylestone View Post
    just a passing thought - If I buy an indentical motherboard but put in a more modern processor and the same quantity of drives, would this make out simpler as the machines would be more or less identical in hardware terms?
    It should, yeah, but then would you not just upgrade the CPU + system drive in the machine you have?

    Apologies if I've missed some info along the way but I'm reading this like 'my system disc is running out of space. How complicated can I make it?'

    If you're not running an SSD just get one, clone a to b, switch, and probably be happy.
    You can get a TB for 50-100 these days..It's a no brainer.
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    I don't think that you'd be saving yourself much trouble by buying an identical motherboard. The chances of getting the same revision are pretty slim if it's been years since you bought the original mobo. And if it's a different revision of mobo, the chipset drivers and other system drivers (like USB, SATA, etc.) are likely different, so you'll have to reinstall the appropriate version anyways.

    All it'll take to migrate to a new computer is to clone your system drive and then install all of the manufacturer's chipset and system drivers for the new motherboard. Even if the old drivers are part of the cloned drive image, that'll almost certainly be OK. Just reinstall the appropriate system drivers once you've got your drive migrated to the new system. That stuff will all be available on the motherboard manufacturer's website.

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