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    I was mid pack, although I admit that I screwed up the Killers because I though the track hadn't changed. Didn't get the hang of the test until the third flip. Plus, I found the Killers track to just be a massive wall of sound that gives little to distinguish. Like Rob, it seemed like the Dixie Chicks had more "clues" to use for distinguishing the two. For me it was in ambience and soundstage, neither of which I found in the Killers. This was also the case when I did a similar test years ago. Some tracks were more affected by the compression.

    I wonder if its significant that I improved continually?

    You got 52% correct
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    The Killers 20% (p >= 0.020)
    James Blake 40% (p >= 0.020)
    Daft Punk 60% (p >= 0.020)
    The Eagles 60% (p >= 0.020)
    Dixie Chicks 80% (p >= 0.020)

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    Along with the quality of hearing, the gear being listened on and the environment, there is what they are used to hearing, I worked at an FM station and I could switch the studio monitor to the source (going to the xmtter) and what was broadcast. What people got was compressed to the point that one would need some high-end gear to try to restore it to the real sound. If people spend all their time listening to radio, they probably would not recognize half the music played from the source.

    The same may happen to those hearing it streamed, as MP3s, on poor earbuds, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radi0j0hn View Post
    Along with the quality of hearing, the gear being listened on and the environment, there is what they are used to hearing, I worked at an FM station and I could switch the studio monitor to the source (going to the xmtter) and what was broadcast. What people got was compressed to the point that one would need some high-end gear to try to restore it to the real sound. If people spend all their time listening to radio, they probably would not recognize half the music played from the source.

    The same may happen to those hearing it streamed, as MP3s, on poor earbuds, etc.
    That is an interesting point. In the past it was often not possible (equipment and/or media prohibitely expensive) to get anything even close to "the source". These days it's very possible, but still might not be practical enough for most people.
    It's also interesting to think that "the same" could happen multiple times, for the lack of a better wording. Some people are young enough to never have heard anything from an analog tape so they certainly won't compare an MP3 to that experience, and some people have listened to tons of tapes but have no concept of what vinyl sounds like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toastedgoat View Post
    Interesting! Not a study, but something closer to the original point (yes indeed). It's good to be reminded of how the math for this sort of thing works.

    I realized now more directly that something further to consider is of course the relevance of only being able to tell the difference. Like others have already touched on. More specifically, in this test I knew there was a difference to start with. I feel if I hadn't known (if there was an added possibility of A and B being the same), it would have approached being impossible. That would almost certainly have added true errors... aka something not just a wrong guess, I guess.

    Also something to consider is of course whether or not the difference is large enough to "matter", which is almost a completely different topic. I found that in some of those tracks the only difference was exactly that they sounded different from each other. One didn't sound "bad" and the other "good", generally. In at least two of them I could only tell them apart because the high treble sounded different, which could even be a result of an optional low-pass filter on the compressed track. Different encoder settings, that difference might disappear.

    My results? Well ok, for science!

    You
    probably can't
    hear the difference between the lossy and lossless samples (p >= 0.10)
    You got 68% correct
    There is a 11% likelihood of getting this or a more extreme score by chance
    Track
    Correct
    p-value
    The Killers 60% (p >= 0.020)
    James Blake 60% (p >= 0.020)
    Daft Punk 40% (p >= 0.020)
    The Eagles 100% (p >= 0.020)
    Dixie Chicks 80% (p >= 0.020)
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