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    Tascam TSR-8... Mixer to match???

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    I know that this question gets asked all the time for this and just about every other piece of equipment. I have a Tascam TSR-8.
    My typical recording setup is gonna be something like this. Basically just me and my Old-Man. So there is never gonna be more than 2 people at any time. I dont plan on wanting to do any kind of crazy routing. Really, if I could just design a mixer the way I want to use it, I would have an 8 or maybe 12 channel mixer with Direct-Ins and Outs on each channel. Maybe it would be nice to have a 4 or 8 Channel Bus "Just in case". But I really just want to be able to Arm a Channel/Track or Two to Record... Record whatever. Then switch those two Tracks from Armed to Listen or "Monitor" so I can hear what I just recorded. Then Arm another 1, 2, or 3 Tracks and overdub as I listen to what I did on the first 2 Tracks.
    I know what you're gonna say. Yep, I just explained how to use a mixer to record right? Well, I just wanted to explain what my basic workflow is gonna be. And yes, it IS basic.
    Here is where I get a little confused, Do some Analogue mixers have a certain amount of busses and thats the main type of mixer? And then there are other types of mixers that I think are called In-Line or Direct Out mixers? OR did I just make that up?
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    I own: Tascam TSR-8
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    “Inline” means each strip does double-duty. Inputs and outputs reside on the same strip. So rather than having input strips and then over to the right your subgroups on separate strips, the input and subgroup are on the same strip. Often times monitor return functions are also on the same strip. My prototype Tascam console looks like it’s just got 12 channels and no subgroups, but it is a 12x8 console.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetbeats View Post
    “Inline” means each strip does double-duty. Inputs and outputs reside on the same strip. So rather than having input strips and then over to the right your subgroups on separate strips, the input and subgroup are on the same strip. Often times monitor return functions are also on the same strip. My prototype Tascam console looks like it’s just got 12 channels and no subgroups, but it is a 12x8 console.
    So would I need a mixer with 8 busses if I want to just record a few tracks at time and monitor whatever I already have recorded? Or would the 8 bus mixer help more if I have more people recording at 1 time? And I have a side question...
    I have an old Digi-002 mixer unit that I used to use with Pro Tools. Without the Pro Tools software it can be set to use it as a digital mixer. Could I use that if I just want to get signals into the TSR-8 but am not too concerned with Eq'ing or adding fancy effects?
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    Have a look around for a secondhand Tascam M2524 mixer, it was a very good match for the TSR8. In fact this was once my studio setup before it moved to a Tascam M3700 and MSR16S, before it moved etc etc .

    I know the M2524 is old, but there will be some good ones around.
    Alan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witzendoz View Post
    Have a look around for a secondhand Tascam M2524 mixer, it was a very good match for the TSR8. In fact this was once my studio setup before it moved to a Tascam M3700 and MSR16S, before it moved etc etc .

    I know the M2524 is old, but there will be some good ones around.
    Alan.
    That 2524 looks like it has a lot more channels than I might ever need. Would a Tascam M-1516 be basically the same thing but with less channels???
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    The M-1516 is a different series but would work as well, there is a 16 channel version of the M2524 the M2516

    I always think that more channels are always better, that way if you have any external effects, sound modules, keyboards etc you can leave them plugged into the spare channels.

    Alan.

    EDIT: the M1516 only has 4 sub groups the 25 series has 8.

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    Mix busses are a convenient feature...they are like a flexible patchbay that allows you to “repatch” by pushing buttons and turning knobs rather than plugging and unplugging cables. They also allow you to conveniently submix multiple inputs into one group to record onto one or more tracks. Is that something you need? It sounds like maybe not.

    The number of mix busses does not have to equal the track count. Yes, in a professional studio that is often the case because time is money and it’s of value for the engineer to be able to assign inputs to any tape track from the chair. But it seems like it’s pretty commonplace for folks in the home recording or project studio arena to record a single source onto one track. To accomplish that you need at least direct outs on your input channels, and then at least as many channels as tape tracks for mixdown. Since it sounds like your process will involve some overdubbing, you will also need at least one cue mix, yes? Will you need more than one? Think about that...decide if the people you are recording with will all be able to live with the same cue mix during overdubs, or if you need more than one cue mix.

    So...there are a number of mixers from a number of makers that will work, but something like an M-308 or M-1508 would work just fine as long as you don’t have more than 8 sources you want connected during tracking. Both of those examples have the ability to monitor tape tracks and setup cue mixes independently from the 8 inputs. 8 channels are the minimum, and will work if there are inbuilt means to independently monitor and submix tape tracks during overdubs.

    Your Digi 002 will work to preamplify stuff, but it is *very* limited as far as monitoring inputs...I think you would find it very limiting and even frustrating with your scenario especially during overdubbing with multiple people. But, yes...it would meet the very basic need of preamplifying mics to line level and getting that signal to the tape deck, and mixing multiple tracks to stereo. Does it actually have 8 line level inputs? You’ll be doing a lot of repatching. I wouldn’t want to be using it myself.

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    Yeah, I guess I just got really lax about busses when using Pro-Tools considering you pretty much have un-limited busses. At least while mixing "In-The-Box". I never actually tried sending anything out of my Digi-002 to add any kind of external effects or anything...
    Lets say I setup my drums to record and I use the Glynn-Johns method and stay old fashioned and use only 4 mics (I prefer the old fashion way, it makes you have to work for it)... I also setup another track for my old man to record a scratch guitar or bass track. Now I have 5 out of my 8 tracks recorded on. Now, while playing back do I have to use a Buss or maybe 2 Busses to do a stereo pre-mix of my drums or can I just set the drum tracks to playback mode and just mix each channel or track individually? But if I wanted to I could route the 4 drum tracks to say, busses 1 and 2 and have buss 1 panned hard left... and buss 2 panned hard right. Or do I really only want to use the busses when I want to bounce the 4 drum tracks down to 2?
    Is any of that possible? Or am I describing doing things the hard way and not utilizing busses properly?
    I have been watching Ebay for a Tascam M-2516 and it seems that the only thing I can get is the manual and a few single replacement knobs... It just happens to be that the mixer that I REALLY want seems to be one of the rarest of all of these Tascams...
    I own: Tascam TSR-8
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    You know if you have the space you could get a M3500 24 channel, they are not that much secondhand, but they are a bit on the large side. When I think of how much my original M2524 cost new, then think of what I paid for my M3700 32 channel new, and what they sell for now. However I have had many years of use out of them.

    My old M2524 does the rounds for sale here (but I am a long way from you), I originally sold it for AU$350, cost AU$7000 new.

    Keep looking something will turn up.

    Alan.

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    Honestly I would MUCH rather get something like the M-2516 or 2524 or what you are recommending from someone on here rather than ebay. I just get the feeling that sellers on Ebay are trying to make money, or they know there is something majorly wrong with the unit so they pop it up on ebay and say that it all lights up and appears to work great. Then you get it shipped to you and lighting up is about the only thing it does well. Or they say they are selling it for a friend and theiy're not sure.
    I'd much rather buy one from someone on here who most likely has used it and took decent care of it and is just looking to upgrade rather than pawn off a piece of used gear that they know is on its last legs...
    I might pop over to the selling or classified section to see if anyone has anything close to what Im looking for...
    And I dont necessarily have a problem going to something a little larger format. But I would LIKE to stay in the $300-$500 range...
    I own: Tascam TSR-8
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