Plus, I've got a couple tsr-8s, that are my main recording machines, I've got a manual with full schematics and it's just nice to have, with fold outs.. a really cheap 38 fell Into my lap and I've been messing with it on the side, that 38s probably the equivalent of an old jalopy on cinder blocks in the front yard that will never run, but occasionally still like to look under the hood and mess with it, I've got a 38 manual with everything but the schematics, just throwing feelers out there to see if I could luck into a hard copy