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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Lawson View Post
    I haven't been concerning myself with running sss tapes in a while. It's a very simple matter to avoid sss tape. All back coated Ampex, Scotch/3M, SONY and all of the off brand tapes those companies made tape for in the 70's through to the early 90's will be sticky period. All back coated Quantegy tape is fine as is Maxell, BASF and the two current producers ATR and PYROL. There may be the odd reel of offending tapes that will play but these are time bombs and will go off sooner or later. Unless those sss tapes mentioned are being offered dirt cheap the PIA they represent is hardly worth the so called bargain.
    And here I thought you were going to once again recommend rubbing Nu Finish car polish on SSS tapes to "fix" them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miroslav View Post
    And here I thought you were going to once again recommend rubbing Nu Finish car polish on SSS tapes to "fix" them.
    Well this is something that can be done. I maintain a dozen reels of sss tape and treat them when I want to play them. I don't recommend anyone building a library of sss tapes. Upkeep is a consideration no matter how you treat them. Imagine 100 reel of sss tape that needs baking or NuFinish periodically. Not a lot of fun. My library consists of RMGI, Quantegy and ATR. My sss reels are for nostalgia mostly.

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    Well...whatever the treatment to get your SSS tapes to play...baking, boiling, polishing...I would think the best solution is to treat-n-transfer to a non-SSS tape or even to a digital format.

    I mean...WTF would be the point of "maintaining" SSS tapes for repeated playback...?
    YMMV...but that's just my opinion.

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    "All backcoated Ampex..." Hm, News to me.

    Guess I better get busy pitching that storage room full of 499 then?
    Why would you record music on a device designed to do word processing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdainsd View Post
    "All backcoated Ampex..." Hm, News to me.

    Guess I better get busy pitching that storage room full of 499 then?
    499 AMPEX came late in the game. Ampex branded 400 series tapes from the early 90's is OK they changed the formula for the binder by then. But there's way way more sss AMPEX out there. Consider that there's 2 decades worth of it compared to a few years of the new formula. But Qunategy is AOK I have non sss Quantegy from the early blue boxes that say AMPEX on the reels that's how close there were to the switch over in production.
    Last edited by Lance Lawson; 02-08-2016 at 06:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Lawson View Post
    But Qunategy is AOK and they called 499 GP9.
    Huh...?

    How do you mean that?
    Quantegy 499 and Quantegy GP9 are two different tapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miroslav View Post
    Huh...?

    How do you mean that?
    Quantegy 499 and Quantegy GP9 are two different tapes.
    Correct I had it wrong. In any event the late Ampex tapes are the only ones worth buying now unless you are OK with the issues of the older tapes. That said the current production tapes are the best option of all.

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    Many times a tape is said to be bad just because of the model number- this is like the idea of lapping heads makes them new again and all the stupidity that goes along with that. Tape can be evaluated by running them on a machine and then checking the lifters- you do not have to run that on your heads. The lifters should not accumulate a lot of black residue and if it does then expect that tape to be sticky. I have found that a sticky tape can be rendered usable by Nu Finish process and cleaning with denatured alcohol which drives of the moisture which is the cause of the problem. The Nu Finish Surfactant act as a sealer and a lubricant. I took a Scotch 807 tape that was new and would not play on a Tascam 42 for 5 minutes and after the process the entire tape played through the deck without issue. I have also treated alignment tapes that were made with Ampex 406 and they still work today.
    Don't through out 456 just because of wives tales as when at Teac I never had a bad roll of tape the whole time I was there but that was previous to that Indian guy selling the companies that garbage binder in 1992. That is when things went south. Ampex, Scotch and Sony. The other companies wisely would have none of that stuff.
    The Richard Hess website has a list of known bad tapes. He is in the business so he would know. After all they sent him the Challenger flight recorder for recovery and they don't trust just anyone.
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