People prefer cheaper prices to high priced crap that can be repaired.
Of course they do. Which is why the unfixable crap needs an environmental tax (or something to that effect) to balance the situation a bit.
People prefer cheaper prices to high priced crap that can be repaired.
Of course they do. Which is why the unfixable crap needs an environmental tax (or something to that effect) to balance the situation a bit.
Thank you. How many 'king phones/cars/foodmixers/washing machines...does one need in a lifetime. My fridge freezer is at least 20 yrs old. Yes bits are bust but it could well see me out.
There is already eveidence that some of the ultra exotic and rare metal in phones are going to run out in a decade or so. Recycling is the only answer. Same goes energywise for Aluminium and Copper. Needs FAR more energy to win from ore than recycled parts.
I just missed WW2 (born '45) but I know the country was recycling like mad. Had to. This time "The War" is worldwide and there isn't another planet hiding behind the Sun!
Something like 1% of the worlds population are very comfortable and fucking things up for the other 99%.
Dave.
Of course they do. Which is why the unfixable crap needs an environmental tax (or something to that effect) to balance the situation a bit.
The situation does not need balancing.
The free market is the absolute best way to allocate scarce goods.
There is no need for an environmental tax except to make some nutzoid lefties happy.
There is no such thing as a "Free Market" or "Fair Competiton". The evidence piles in daily that markets are rigged and companies are tax dodging, lying, self serving bastards.
All of the economic models have failed the vast majority of people. I don't care whether people call themselves left or right wing, both extremes screw people.
But there is some light on the horizon? Up until now it has been manufacturing jobs that have been lost to robots and the work left is practically slave wages. Now, Robotics is climbing into "service", white colour jobs. When the chattering classes get threatened there might be a backlash!
I am no Luddite, I earned my living from "technology" but the world is a lot nastier and uncaring than in my day.
Dave.
Thank you. How many 'king phones/cars/foodmixers/washing machines...does one need in a lifetime. My fridge freezer is at least 20 yrs old. Yes bits are bust but it could well see me out.
There is already eveidence that some of the ultra exotic and rare metal in phones are going to run out in a decade or so. Recycling is the only answer. Same goes energywise for Aluminium and Copper. Needs FAR more energy to win from ore than recycled parts.
I just missed WW2 (born '45) but I know the country was recycling like mad. Had to. This time "The War" is worldwide and there isn't another planet hiding behind the Sun!
Something like 1% of the worlds population are very comfortable and fucking things up for the other 99%.
Dave.
So of course full government fascist control of everything would be so much better than what we have now. Even the socialists know that is crap but they push it anyway so they can have power to run things.
Technically recycling is not the "only" answer, just the cheapest at this time. Turns out the asteroid belt is full of rare metals. One researcher turned up a spectogram (?) analysis of a 8 cubic mile chunk of nearly pure platinum. Soooo we just have to go get it. You think the Space x people are playing, but they see dollar signs.
The situation does not need balancing.
The free market is the absolute best way to allocate scarce goods.
There is no need for an environmental tax except to make some nutzoid lefties happy.
Yes, for scarce materials the free market is effective and will eventually drive the phone etc prices sky-high. I hope you'll be happy when that happens.
Where it doesn't work for materials which are cheap to produce but expensive to dispose of. Hello plastic! You need legislation to push the recycling cost back to manufacturers. Or is that facist control too? What about slavery, do you think it would be okay to reintroduce it to further cut back production costs in the name of free market? Think it's all for the goodwill of people and corporations that this doesn't happen? Guess why it's so popular to produce stuff in China?
Sad to see the discussion degenerate to hatred and name-calling so fast, for some reason I expected a higher standard here. Sure got my expectations set straight on that! Also this has gotten rather far away from the actual topic which I found interesting, politics less so.
Yes, for scarce materials the free market is effective and will eventually drive the phone etc prices sky-high. I hope you'll be happy when that happens.
Where it doesn't work for materials which are cheap to produce but expensive to dispose of. Hello plastic! You need legislation to push the recycling cost back to manufacturers. Or is that facist control too? What about slavery, do you think it would be okay to reintroduce it to further cut back production costs in the name of free market? Think it's all for the goodwill of people and corporations that this doesn't happen? Guess why it's so popular to produce stuff in China?
Sad to see the discussion degenerate to hatred and name-calling so fast, for some reason I expected a higher standard here. Sure got my expectations set straight on that! Also this has gotten rather far away from the actual topic which I found interesting, politics less so.
That has nothing to do with repairs.