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    Hey all,

    I just bought a Tascam 22-4 and i need tape. So the only thing in know is that i need 1/4" tape in a 7" reel. Other than that i have no idea what to purchase.

    Also I've been reading up on the so called "tape shortage" so I know availability shouldn't be a problem, but what should a regular reel of tape go for? (minus the tape-hoarding hype)


    Thanks for helpin

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    The only factory recommended tape that is still being made (hopefully) is Quantegy 407 -- about $12.00 and up each new. A lot of people use 456, with a slightly cheaper cost. Other good tapes if available are EMTEC/BASF LPR 35 and Maxell XL1 35-90B -- the most costly.

    456 has become the defacto standard when in doubt. It's not ideal for the Tascam 22 series but many people use it with few complaints.

    You can also get surprisingly good results with Maxell UD 35-90, and even Radio shack Supertape. Supertape does wonders to restore warmth to digital music transferred from CDs. Using some of the lower grade tapes when transferring CD to tape gives an exaggerated analog effect, which seems to balance the coldness of digital.

    -Tim

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    Other than the 407, as Tim mentioned, I truly enjoy the Maxell UD 35 line of tapes. One thing that attracted me to the Maxell, other than the sound quality of course, is that it is part of the Japanese line of quality tapes which used whale oil lubricant and were never ones to have any probs with sticky-shed. They last a very, very long time so even if you have a 20 year old Maxell UD tape, chances are that it'll play like the day it was made.

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    Is there some sortt of spec i need to look for, say, if i find an old 7" tape reel in basement. I know for a fact there are maxells down there, but i dont know if im "allowed" to use them to record on a 4 track. What makes the 407 differ from the 456?

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    You might give these people a try, It looks like they have 457 and 407 in stock now.


    http://www.usrecordingmedia.com/14reeltape.html

    They claim the tape was made in January 2005. I dont think you will find any that is fresher.

    Also I know that tascam recommends 407 for the 22-2 but I do not have a manual for my 22-4 Does anyone know what they recommend for it?
    Or should I just keep using 457.

    Thanks
    Last edited by Herm; 02-23-2005 at 11:04. Reason: add

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herm
    Also I know that tascam recommends 407 for the 22-2 but I do not have a manual for my 22-4 Does anyone know what they recommend for it?
    Or should I just keep using 457.

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    Herm,

    22-4 brochure lists the same tapes as the 22-2. 407 is recommended, but 457 won't hurt anything and you can drive it harder if not using dbx. If you're using dbx anything more than 407 is just overkill and costs more.

    -Tim

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    Thanks Bud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog.sn
    Is there some sortt of spec i need to look for, say, if i find an old 7" tape reel in basement. I know for a fact there are maxells down there, but i dont know if im "allowed" to use them to record on a 4 track. What makes the 407 differ from the 456?
    456 is a 1.5 mil thickness tape, while 407 is thinner, which makes better head contact on machines set for it. Because 456 is thicker it is shorter -- 1200' on a 7" reel compared to 1800' for 407. 456 is a hotter tape, so you can record a higher signal to it before it distorts. The down side of that is you also have to record a hotter signal to get the full benefit of tape compression.

    The following tapes are recommended for the 22-2/22-4 by Tascam:

    Ampex/Quantegy 407 (457 probably ok)
    Maxell UD 35-90 and XL 35-90B
    3M/Scotch 227 & 207
    Sony DUAD
    TDK AUDUA L-1800
    BASF/EMTEC LP/LPR-35

    Tascam expressly recommends against using 1.5 mil tape on the 22 series, which includes 456.

    -Tim
    Last edited by Beck; 02-23-2005 at 12:08.

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    Wow, i was looking in my basement and my dad had a milk crate full Ampex 1mil 1/4" reels. Should i be concerned about sticky shed? Is there a way i could know if the tapes suffer from the defect? If they do, ill just get new ones, no biggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjacek
    They last a very, very long time so even if you have a 20 year old Maxell UD tape, chances are that it'll play like the day it was made.
    I can confirm this, based on very recent experience with some 25 year old Maxell UD tape!

    Cya
    Andrew

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