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    Is LPR35 the only sticky-safe 1 mil tape right now?

    I scored a like-new 22-4. I've been using LPR35 on my 22-2 and it's been fine. (It sounds a little hissy on my 22-4 compared to the 22-2. I demag'd and it got much better, but not quite as good as the 22-2. Perhaps the more narrow tracks are to blame). Manual says it's biased for Ampex 456/Scotch 250/Maxell UD. My understanding is LPR35 is more like 407 but can handle +3 above 407. I'd like something closer to 407 - but without the sticky shed.

    Should I just shut up and stick with LRP35?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leddy View Post
    Should I just shut up and stick with LRP35?
    I'm in your boat and yes. I bought up a bunch of Quantegy 457 before they quit making it, in my experience the 22-4 likes the Quantegy a bit better than the RMGI. Whatever you do don't put 456 on it or anything 1.5 mil, the transport can't take it.
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    First something happen to this thread. Posts have went missing on it.

    Second all of the tascam 22 series machines are biased for 407 tape not 456 or 457. And I believe lpr35 is the same as 457.
    If you are going to use lpr35 you may need to bias your machine for it to get the best results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herm View Post
    First something happen to this thread. Posts have went missing on it.

    Second all of the tascam 22 series machines are biased for 407 tape not 456 or 457. And I believe lpr35 is the same as 457.
    If you are going to use lpr35 you may need to bias your machine for it to get the best results.
    I'm looking at the manual and it says optimum results are with TEAC YTT-8013 and the following:

    Maxell UD, UDXL, LN
    Scotch 250, Master
    Sony DUAD, SLH
    TDK AUDUA, (L), T
    Ampex 456

    I guess that's why I had some confusion. The mechanical specs indicate 1 mil tape. Before posts got deleted, I got kind of barked at for not using the search button, but clearly there seems to be a discrepancy somewhere.

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    Are you sure you have the 22 series manual cause I have both the 22-2 maual and the 22-4 manual and they both say 407 tape.
    456 is a 1.5 mil tape and biased at 250. Both machines manuals say they do not recommend 1.5 mil tape for the 22-4 or 22-2
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    Here is a pic of the manual I am using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leddy View Post
    I'm looking at the manual and it says optimum results are with TEAC YTT-8013 and the following:

    Maxell UD, UDXL, LN
    Scotch 250, Master
    Sony DUAD, SLH
    TDK AUDUA, (L), T
    Ampex 456

    I guess that's why I had some confusion. The mechanical specs indicate 1 mil tape. Before posts got deleted, I got kind of barked at for not using the search button, but clearly there seems to be a discrepancy somewhere.
    TEAC YTT-8013 was the in-house designation for a playback alignment tape used at the Montebello CA facility.

    If the machine was set up in the 456 ball park, using 406 or similar tape would have you over biased enough that the recordings would come back on the dull side with a noticeable lack of headroom.

    Conversely, if set up for 406/407 and their ilk but using 456-ish stuff, you'd be under biased enough to come back a bit bright with a bit more headroom at your disposal.

    To repeat some of what was lost from yesterday: I think that buying NOS Amnpex/Quategy is risky due to the possibility of sticky-shed, poor QC, or both. Others here disagree.
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    My manual says TEAC 22-4. I'll try to post a picture later on. I bought the manual separate from the machine which definitely says Tascam 22-4.

    The Picture you posted looks like my 22-2 manual. The TEAC 22-4 manual looks slightly different.

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    I just thought of that before you posted. The 22 was a teac with the first models and that could be where the confusion comes in.
    So is your recorder a teac or a tascam? I know the two machines look the same but just maybe there are some differences in the two.

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    I just bought a nos roll of Maxell ud off ebay and I going to see how it sounds on the 22-4. Maybe picking up a few rolls of if would be a better way to go.
    It cant hurt and it doesnt cost that much. After all we are just home recordist trying to have a little fun.

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